Crawley Dingo
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- Mar 31, 2022
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Nice try but this agenda has become self evident now, look at London. Its all about importing voters.
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[Politics] The 2024 US Election - *MATCH DAY*
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You don't have to take sides. It's possible to see that there is wrong on both sides!
I see Musk as more akin to Jonathan Pryce's character in Tomorrow Never Dies!!!
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I agree to an extent but think there is a risk we are maybe underestimating the depth of the divide in American society right now - large swathes of the electorate ( especially in the rust belt) after many years of economic hardship and social problems, high inflation, difficulties in accessing affordable healthcare etc has led to a starkly polarised political environment in the US.
This isn’t just about Trump and what he says or how he behaves imo - Trump is just articulating what many Americans have been feeling. The forces that are at play behind his campaign successes ( ie QAnon, Bannon, Project 2025, Musk etc) are a lot more insidious and run far deeper than him behaving like a ‘petulant child’ - forces that feed a growing hatred not just of of immigrants but anyone of colour, LBQGT, anyone to the left of the political spectrum, a retraction from international engagement and reassertion of moral absolutism and isolationism, culturally and religiously divided.
Trump just represents the popular face for one half of a dangerously schismatic society.
So desperate to see change from their status quo, voters are wilfully blind to the unsuitability of Trump‘s fatally flawed character which renders him unfit to lead the nation. Trump hasn’t created the political climate in the US, he is a symptom of it - and a dangerous one at that.
Except that Dingo isn't American (is he?)
- Aug 24, 2020
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I would throw in the towel. The pro-immigration lobby have got it sewn up. Munching on our pets? No matter what you accuse them of, each one will be a future voter.
It's a bugger, isn't it? Deprive them of the vote; that's the answer. No vote for half a century, unless they are a lighter shade of bronze than Donald J. Trump.
Job done. Go forth and prepare for not being in government.
I don't disagree with any of that.
Are you saying he's one of those immigrants that's causing all the economic problems for the indigenous white population!!!
- Oct 20, 2022
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Not sure what that has to do with what I wrote tbh.
This election and any discussion about Trump is not all about @Crawley Dingo and nor is every post directed at him.
So the record number of immigrants entering Britain under the recent (2010-2024) Conservative Government was due to Cameron, May, Johnson, Truss and Sunak deliberately boosting Labour's future electoral support base?
The sort of batshit 'logic' we've come to expect from Trump supporters. 'Self-evident' only to paranoid Right-wing conspiracy theorists who see Commies lurking behind every lamp-post, and Reds under every bed!
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Crawley Dingo
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The Tories are clueless incompetents, it took a while for most of the Republicans to wake up to this but most have now, especially as they (illegal immigrants)are being flown to purple states aka marginals.
rogersix
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He is a citizen of the world
rogersix
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He is a,"person of interest"
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It is and I agree wholeheartedly- but what really concerns me more is that Trump is NOT operating in a political vacuum.
His rhetoric is gaining traction because this is what people want to hear. Trump has the backing of some much darker far right forces behind him - including amongst high ranking members of the Republican Party.
Even Harris has moved farther to the right on immigration than previous democratic positions to accommodate public opinion.
What I think really sad is that America was built on welcoming immigrants, it’s what made the Country great. It is the Country that welcomed my family from war torn Europe.
The Statue of Liberty standing at the mouth of the Hudson since 1886, holding a torch representing the path to freedom for oppressed people coming to America’s shores - on a pedestal adorned with the words of the New Colossus:
Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
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willalbion
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That sounds extremely unlikely my friend, where are you doing your research?