- Oct 17, 2008
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The ref got the decisions right. The players actions were farcical, especially the first one.This isn't a farce; it's just brain farts by the two players. What's the ref supposed to do other than correctly award the pens?
Is it not just a case of the player forcing the referee to make a decision over what the player thought was a clear foul (in the same way a lot of players will grab the ball if they fall over in order to force the ref to make a decision, usually in their favour) however it went wrong and unfortunately for the player, the ref gave a penalty for the handball rather than the free kick that the player thought would happen?I am 100% not buying either of them. The first one maybe is dubious, but the second one is absolutely not an accident/brain fart. It's ridiculous and the reporting has very much been, "look at how obviously dodgy this is - but we'll report it as being comedy errors to highlight it and let the chips fall where they may".
Bans incoming, pending investigations. I look forward to this being bounced in probably 3/4 months' time.
Absolutely not in this case, no. The first one you can debate it, because as someone else said - it's an action which isn't totally out of place but the second one is blatant. It's not a natural action and it's not something anyone would reasonably do. You won't even see that in non-league football.Is it not just a case of the player forcing the referee to make a decision over what the player thought was a clear foul (in the same way a lot of players will grab the ball if they fall over in order to force the ref to make a decision, usually in their favour) however it went wrong and unfortunately for the player, the ref gave a penalty for the handball rather than the free kick that the player thought would happen?
Why would the defender be wishing to force the referee to make a decision? The only decision he would be forced to make was a) it was a foul and free-kick which would not benefit the defending team, or b) no foul - in which case the defender wouldn't need to do anything except play the ball.Is it not just a case of the player forcing the referee to make a decision over what the player thought was a clear foul (in the same way a lot of players will grab the ball if they fall over in order to force the ref to make a decision, usually in their favour) however it went wrong and unfortunately for the player, the ref gave a penalty for the handball rather than the free kick that the player thought would happen?
Even if the player who picked up the ball saw it clearly, believed it to be a clear and obvious foul and the ref was about to give it (anticipating it being given) so picked up as absolutely convinced the ref was awarding it (the commentary even said they believed it to be a foul)Absolutely not in this case, no. The first one you can debate it, because as someone else said - it's an action which isn't totally out of place but the second one is blatant. It's not a natural action and it's not something anyone would reasonably do. You won't even see that in non-league football.
Rewatched it on a bigger screen now and it's the defender that committed the foul, not the attacker as i thought originally.Why would the defender be wishing to force the referee to make a decision? The only decision he would be forced to make was a) it was a foul and free-kick which would not benefit the defending team, or b) no foul - in which case the defender wouldn't need to do anything except play the ball.