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[Politics] The Labour Government
- Thread starter Super Steve Earle
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To be fair the demographic has changed significantly over the past decade or so. The recent switch to Labour was down to transplants as much as anything else, so it is a big deal.
keaton
Big heart, hot blood and balls. Big balls
- Nov 18, 2004
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I imagine they have experience of people not being honest in their politics and reasons for voting
He and his cabal have done the right thing
PM will no longer accept donations to pay for clothes https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwyvpv1lzq6o
PM will no longer accept donations to pay for clothes https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwyvpv1lzq6o
- Oct 20, 2022
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The figure of £221.20 in my post is for men born on or after 1951 and women born on or after 1953 - I quoted correctly.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Weststander
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As much as I like Victoria in her designer gear, there’s a certain allure to her being in cheap H&M joggers and a sloppy tee.
I"ve not followed the furore with the WFA too much but my understanding that ‘society’s poorest’ that you refer to in your quote above will presumably be in receipt of pension credit and other means tested benefits and so will still be eligible for the wfa. If that’s the case I don’t know what the fuss is all about. My mum will probably bang on about it but as she’s got about 200k in the bank she don’t bleeding need it.
- Oct 20, 2022
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Yep, agree with the point you are making though - it seems grossly unfair that older pensioners are on a lower pension rate than younger pensioners however, they are entitled to pension credits so will at least qualify for the winter fuel allowance - and other means-tested benefits so it’s not all black and white
This is a good article
UK state pensions: are older retirees getting a bad deal?
People who receive the new state pension can get thousands a year more than those on the old basic scheme
www.theguardian.com
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Weststander
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“some of society’s poorest” are in the household income bracket above pension credit, using the WFA to keep warm in winter.
Being down to his last £4m-£7,7m (depending on which source you believe), he'll be feeling the same as those pensioners who have lost the money they need to keep themselves warm this winter.
Thoughts and prayers, thoughts and prayers.
You're right - you've not followed it, quite clearly.
It might be worth catching up before you make any more ill-informed wide-of-the-mark statements.
Well done to your mum - she won't be feeling the stress of pensioners with no savings, barely making do month-to-month, facing sky-high utility bills and not sure how they'll stay warm this winter.
BN41Albion
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- Oct 1, 2017
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They're only caring because suddenly lots of those voting have had the winter fuel allowance they put towards their next jolly taken away from them
Weststander
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It would certainly focus the minds of oap’s who voted Labour and presumed a centre left party wouldn’t hurt them.
BN41Albion
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- Oct 1, 2017
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I find it sickening the way the right wing press have been so faux outraged by it - its absolutely a policy that if it were the Tories they would be fully behind as a rational and sensible cut to make - it's more of a Tory policy anyway on the face of it.
Such is the gutter press in this country, though
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
absolutely..just look at this awful right wing piece….oh hang onI find it sickening the way the right wing press have been so faux outraged by it - its absolutely a policy that if it were the Tories they would be fully behind as a rational and sensible cut to make - it's more of a Tory policy anyway on the face of it.
Such is the gutter press in this country, though
The Guardian view on winter fuel payments: a mess of Labour’s own making over benefit cuts | Editorial
Editorial: The government wants to act tough over the public finances. But ministers look mean, unjust and politically inept
www.theguardian.com
This feels like a bigger story but doesnt seem to have had the same coverage for some reason.
Weststander
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I find it sickening the way the right wing press have been so faux outraged by it - its absolutely a policy that if it were the Tories they would be fully behind as a rational and sensible cut to make - it's more of a Tory policy anyway on the face of it.
Such is the gutter press in this country, though
Not the old right wing press chestnut again. How many read these papers in this day and age?
Sky News, BBC, Guardian, LibDems have been highly critical, 50 Labour MP’s disappeared on vote evening, a wide raft of charities have been damning.
Labour obsessives here would love to pigeon hole this as purely wealthy Daily Mail reading old people. Nothing to see here.
Alas for them, a whole load of people, journalists and charities won’t let this lie.
Hopefully Reeves will do something fair on budget day.
Weststander
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Similarly the Guardian article that included Uber has having been Labour supporters/lobbyists pre Election.
Going by nsc over the last 10 years, I thought Uber were the capitalist devil incarnate.