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[Albion] You're the ref: Veltman v Rice

You're the ref: Veltman v Rice

  • No card to either player

    Votes: 99 17.4%
  • No card for Veltman; yellow card for Rice

    Votes: 255 44.7%
  • Yellow card for Veltman; nothing for Rice

    Votes: 13 2.3%
  • Yellow card for both players

    Votes: 118 20.7%
  • No card for Veltman; red card for Rice

    Votes: 37 6.5%
  • Red card for Veltman; nothing for Rice

    Votes: 3 0.5%
  • Red card for Veltman; yellow card for Rice

    Votes: 4 0.7%
  • Yellow card for Veltman; red card for Rice

    Votes: 36 6.3%
  • Red card for both players

    Votes: 5 0.9%

  • Total voters
    570


Dick Head

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Jan 3, 2010
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Quaxxann
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sussex_guy2k2

Well-known member
Jun 6, 2014
4,027
“an opponent who deliberately prevents a free kick being taken quickly must be cautioned for delaying the restart of play.”

Above is the wording of the new law. Rice not only moves into Veltman’s path, he also nudged the ball out of Veltman’s way. He deliberately prevented the free kick being taken quickly; there is nothing to debate.
The guy was moving away from the ball, with a non-stationary ball (which means the free kick wasn’t even ready to be taken from our side), which he slightly nudged to the side.

I’m an Albion fan through and through, but you’re kidding yourself if you think there’s nothing to debate there.
 


















Berty23

Well-known member
Jun 26, 2012
3,620
The guy was moving away from the ball, with a non-stationary ball (which means the free kick wasn’t even ready to be taken from our side), which he slightly nudged to the side.

I’m an Albion fan through and through, but you’re kidding yourself if you think there’s nothing to debate there.
He literally kicked the ball off the pitch. Not a little nudge.
 


Whoislloydy

Well-known member
May 2, 2016
2,495
Vancouver, British Columbia
Ref got it spot on, 2nd yellow. Rice knew exactly what he was doing, he f***ed around and found out essentially.

Arsenal fans play the victim card every time a decision goes against them, bringing up events from 15 years ago in their argument about the lack of consistency in refereeing. I can’t recall a manager I disliked as much as Arteta.
 






TugWilson

I gotta admit that I`m a little bit confused
Dec 8, 2020
1,689
Dorset
With all the ambiguity within the rules of the game these days i think the rule for kicking the ball away/holding the ball to slow progression should be made simple .

Once the Ref has blown , unless accidental , only the side awarded the ball should touch it otherwise it is a yellow .
 


Berty23

Well-known member
Jun 26, 2012
3,620
Except Joao Pedro. Today. In the same game.
Do players always stop when they think the ball is out? Or sometimes do they play on and hope lino and ref missed it? Comparing the Pedro throw in when we were in position and when the ref has blown for a free kick and rice was out of position.
 


Weststander

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Aug 25, 2011
68,865
Withdean area
Apologies if fixtures but it made me a little bit happier than I already was.



No Morality Morgan …. under his stewardship his rag hacked the phones of crime victims during live police investigations. Grime.
 




SeagullsoverLondon

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NSC Patron
Jun 20, 2021
3,806
The guy was moving away from the ball, with a non-stationary ball (which means the free kick wasn’t even ready to be taken from our side), which he slightly nudged to the side.

I’m an Albion fan through and through, but you’re kidding yourself if you think there’s nothing to debate there.
If Rice hadn't had slightly nudged the ball, Veltman would have kicked the ball, rather than Rice, thereby stopping a quick free kick from being taken.
Rice was a bit stupid, because if he hadn't have kicked the ball, and Veltman had hit the ball into him, the ref would have just made Veltman retake it and not cautioned Rice.
 


Flounce

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Nov 15, 2006
4,122
If Rice hadn't had slightly nudged the ball, Veltman would have kicked the ball, rather than Rice, thereby stopping a quick free kick from being taken.
Rice was a bit stupid, because if he hadn't have kicked the ball, and Veltman had hit the ball into him, the ref would have just made Veltman retake it and not cautioned Rice.
Rice is not very bright though, is he?
 


ATFC Seagull

Aberystwyth Town FC
Jul 27, 2004
5,347
(North) Portslade
100% yellow for Rice. Might be "housery" or whatever but catching a player trying to stand over the ball or make him block a quick free kick to get him booked is not a new trick and it's always been a yellow for the opponent.

However I reckon Veltman could have pulled out of the kick, at least a little, once Rice knocked the ball away.

Although you couldn't find a player in football who I have less sympathy for!
 










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