Tom Hark Preston Park
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- Jul 6, 2003
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One thing's for sure, all the ex-pros will be roaring with laughter in the MOTD studio tonight
People are calling it a kick, its really more of a stupid flick of the outside of his foot at the ball, still a kick, but a stupid thing to do and the letter of the law has been applied.Not a good angle, can't really see him kick the ball away
I also wondered if it wasn't until he showed the yellow, he realised it was Rice's second? Couldn't take it back then - and had no option but to get the red out.Watched the highlights and the Ref appears to be apologising after he sent him off, along the lines that’s the new rules there is nothing I can do about
Pretty sure he had them both in hand before raising the yellow.I also wondered if it wasn't until he showed the yellow, he realised it was Rice's second? Couldn't take it back then - and had no option but to get the red out.
I think that's the issue the consistencyThe issue is the lack of consistency. We’d have been furious if it was given the other way.
Do I think Veltman did anything wrong? No, not in the slightest.
Did Rice do something that deserved a yellow? Barely. If that’s a yellow, we may as well all pack up our bags now.
Ah - yes, not quite - but near enough. 4.30 on herePretty sure he had them both in hand before raising the yellow.
Edit: for what its worth, I laughed my ass off.
It was a deliberate intervention to stop play, or cheating, punishable by a yellow card.He barely moved the ball. And stuff like that happens minimum 3-4 times a game. He could’ve legitimately argued he just tried to knock it backwards to Veltman.
Anyway, it’s a difference of opinion. I get why the decision was made, but I don’t agree with it, and it leaves far too much to interpretation. And it could lead to a lot of games being turned by innocuous things like this.
I stand corrected. Funny on second viewing too.
Seems to be a spoof sadly. McCoist awarded MotM to Joao Pedro. Still funny as f*** photo thoIt's been absolutely joyous fielding all the comments from salty Arsenal mates this afternoon. So many conspiracy theories flying around about the Refs and Arsenal The Maupay crying gif has been working overtime winding them up.
The fact that Veltman got MotM is even funnier. It's really set me up nicely for my last night shift.
Gah, I was a kip, so didn't see the match, so didn't realise Joao got MotM again. Shall keep on sending it though, so many are falling for itSeems to be a spoof sadly. McCoist awarded MotM to Joao Pedro. Still funny as f*** photo tho
it’s irrelevant regarding the booking.But who was he kicking the ball to? I really don't think Veltman was actually taking the free-kick and passing it to a teammate. He knew exactly what he was doing.
Exactly this. Arse are clutching at far too many straws.it’s irrelevant regarding the booking.
I don't think he was trying to kick it at Rice. He was looking downfield and aiming to kick it long to Welbeck/Pedro. Rice was to the side and not in line with the ball.Rice thought he was being clever by just flicking the ball away to delay the FK, 100% second yellow. Veltman was going to try to kick the ball against Rice to accuse him of failing to retreat which would have been harsh but Rice was the architect of his own downfall. Veltman was clever and did nothing wrong
Even funnier that VAR couldn’t get involved. Arteta the silly hand shaker blanked him as well.Just seen it properly. If that had happened to us we’d be absolutely fuming. Velts has tried to take a free kick from a moving ball so how can someone be penalised from blocking an illegal restart?
First post-match vid I've seen
You don’t know this as he wasn’t able to take the free kickVelts has tried to take a free kick from a moving ball so how can someone be penalised from blocking an illegal restart?