[Albion] Matt O Riley [26/08/24 - sings on a 5-year deal]

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Greg Bobkin

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jcdenton08 said:
Lol the last 5 pages have been hilarious. Absolute circus.

Not being funny but the average quality of my posts compared to everything I’ve just read… wow.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Desperate stuff lads.
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I think some people have lost all sense of reality during their online arguments with strangers about a unknown scenario :lolol:

Meanwhile, here's another question to chuck out there, would fans be as apoplectic with rage if was one of the regulars that got clattered, as opposed to a shiny new singing? A lot of the narrative seems to be around how it was only minutes into his debut, as if that makes it worse, somehow?

A bad tackle is a bad tackle, no?
 






sparkie

sparkie

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Jul 17, 2003
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Hove
US Seagull said:
It would appear so.

I just wanted to know how long he might be out so that I can properly calibrate how much bed wetting to do.
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If there is any chance this has impacted our transfer window plans - eg negotiating a loan of a replacement player - there will be no news released until Saturday at the earliest.

The only chance of hearing anything before that is if it is good news.
 
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5Ways Gull

È quello che è
Feb 2, 2009
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Fiveways, Brighton
Greg Bobkin said:
I think some people have lost all sense of reality during their online arguments with strangers about a unknown scenario :lolol:

Meanwhile, here's another question to chuck out there, would fans be as apoplectic with rage if was one of the regulars that got clattered, as opposed to a shiny new singing? A lot of the narrative seems to be around how it was only minutes into his debut, as if that makes it worse, somehow?

A bad tackle is a bad tackle, no?
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I certainly would be just as angry if it was an established player.

I have seen a couple of posts criticising FH for playing him the day after signing in a "meaningless match"?? One of these was on the BBC site. Dont get that at all.
 


ATFC Seagull

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Aberystwyth Town FC
Jul 27, 2004
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5Ways Gull said:
I certainly would be just as angry if it was an established player.

I have seen a couple of posts criticising FH for playing him the day after signing in a "meaningless match"?? One of these was on the BBC site. Dont get that at all.
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No it doesn't make sense at all.

O'Riley has been playing so is fit. He's also been playing in Scotland which is just as physical (probably more so) than the English lower leagues, and was an L1 player three years ago. It was the perfect chance to get him up and running.
 




Triggaaar

Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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Goldstone
Greg Bobkin said:
Meanwhile, here's another question to chuck out there, would fans be as apoplectic with rage if was one of the regulars that got clattered, as opposed to a shiny new singing?

A bad tackle is a bad tackle, no?
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Yes. If Pedro, Van Hecke, Dunk or Mitoma had been injured for 5 months due to someone deliberately trying to hurt them, then yes, people would still be really pissed off.

Because it wasn't just a bad tackle. We've had other people injured through bad tackles, but this stands out because Williams deliberately set out to hurt Matt.
 


sparkie

sparkie

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Triggaaar said:
Yes. If Pedro, Van Hecke, Dunk or Mitoma had been injured for 5 months due to someone deliberately trying to hurt them, then yes, people would still be really pissed off.

Because it wasn't just a bad tackle. We've had other people injured through bad tackles, but this stands out because Williams deliberately set out to hurt Matt.
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And he smirked to wind up Webster. Thankfully Adam knew his game and didn't throw a punch.
 








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um bongo molongo

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Jul 26, 2004
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It’s a disgraceful tackle, almost certainly deliberate, and there’s been zero contrition from the player himself. Only a ham fisted apology from the manager who sent him out there to put in some ‘reducers’. It’s also noteworthy since (thankfully) those kind of leg breaker challenges are quite rare these days, especially in the more rarefied confines of the PL where these types of clogger no longer survive. It has also put a player who cost a lot of money and was key to how FH wants to play out for (probably) a number of months, and possibly a very long time.

So we’re allowed to be p*ssed off, and to call out Williams as a talentless thug and the Crawley management as c***s for the 1980s game plan. The apologists can f*** off.
 


Thunder Bolt

Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Aug 18, 2009
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Beside the seaside, beside the sea
Triggaaar said:
Yes. If Pedro, Van Hecke, Dunk or Mitoma had been injured for 5 months due to someone deliberately trying to hurt them, then yes, people would still be really pissed off.

Because it wasn't just a bad tackle. We've had other people injured through bad tackles, but this stands out because Williams deliberately set out to hurt Matt.
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Mitoma was out for months following a nasty ‘tackle’ from a Sheff Utd player. I recall many ranting about that, too.
 




Green Cross Code Man

Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
20,740
Eastbourne
Greg Bobkin said:
I think some people have lost all sense of reality during their online arguments with strangers about a unknown scenario :lolol:

Meanwhile, here's another question to chuck out there, would fans be as apoplectic with rage if was one of the regulars that got clattered, as opposed to a shiny new singing? A lot of the narrative seems to be around how it was only minutes into his debut, as if that makes it worse, somehow?

A bad tackle is a bad tackle, no?
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There is truth in what you say. However in practise things do not work like that for most people. I have often seen posts on social media complaining 'a life is a life' and whilst that is true a loss of life close to home, Brighton, Eastbourne, Sussex, England etc can often be felt more keenly than a loss of life in say Germany, France, Afghanistan etc. In those cases it's about the feeling of social connection outweighing the fact that human life is and should be regarded as equal in value.

In this case yes there is a justifiable sense of extra outrage. Humans frame their responses from context as well as value. If the context is that something new is perceived to have higher value than something older but of equal worth, then the upset state of mind will be emphasised. Like buying a lovely new car, a dent or scratch or a tear in the upholstery will be regarded with more pain than were the car 6 months old.

So yes there are good reasons fans are reacting this way even if the corollary is one that shows that the tackle should be regarded in the same way whichever player was unfortunate to be on the end of it.
 






















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