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Thunder Bolt

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Yes, there’s not much shelter from the sun. Did you see all the lovely artefacts on display found when digging for the metro for the 2008 Olympics? It’s the next station from Syntagma Square beginning with P. Panastimio?
Almost right

Panepistimio
 


halbpro

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Jan 25, 2012
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I hear the argument and the Greek claim to the marbles but possession is nine tenths of the law , and at the time the Greeks weren’t taking care of them . It is all the result of Empire and Britain raided the world for stuff.
I know I have spent many happy times in the British Museum looking at them and stuff from all over the Middle East . I would not like the next generation to be deprived of that.
Why do the next generation of Brits get to see them in London while the next generation of Greeks don't get to see them in Athens?
 


dejavuatbtn

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Aug 4, 2010
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Henfield
Yes, there’s not much shelter from the sun. Did you see all the lovely artefacts on display found when digging for the metro for the 2008 Olympics? It’s the next station from Syntagma Square beginning with P. Panastimio?
Ah, the Italians will be wanting them back before long.
 










Bry Nylon

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Jul 21, 2003
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...if we chucked out all the parts of Britain that didn't make a net contribution to the exchequer we'd be left with the Square Mile, Canary Wharf and Aberdeen.
...plus the pay & display carpark at Durdle Door.
 














US Seagull

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nicko31

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Starmer meeting with the Greek PM today...

"the marbles are not on the agenda"

That translates is they'll soon be heading home
 








PeterT

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Apr 21, 2017
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Hove
They should be
I’m guessing it’s not about the marbles as such, it’s more that it would set a precedent as to what else would need to be returned and that list would be pretty much endless.
 


Eeyore

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I’m guessing it’s not about the marbles as such, it’s more that it would set a precedent as to what else would need to be returned and that list would be pretty much endless.
In fairness, the British Museum does seem a little, well, not British. I mean, if you were showing someone round your house it would seem a little odd when you were showing off all the stuff you had pilfered whilst on an extended world trip.
 




PeterT

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Apr 21, 2017
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In fairness, the British Museum does seem a little, well, not British. I mean, if you were showing someone round your house it would seem a little odd when you were showing off all the stuff you had pilfered whilst on an extended world trip.
I don’t disagree, although I’ve actually never been there myself.

But then you could say pretty much the same thing about every museum and art gallery in countless other nations too. I’m just wondering where this starts and stops.

I don’t know if we just get to hear about it more in this country because it involves us? It’s a bit like the Spanish claim on Gibraltar which goes back to the early 18th century and the Spanish Wars of Succession which seems to be in the news a lot. I was in Madrid at the weekend and I saw it on a scarf at the football, for example. But much later territorial ‘disputes’ like France getting Nice and Corsica from Italy in later peace treaties from the Napoleonic Wars (I haven’t double checked that, it’s from memory) never seem to come up any more. Edit: Corsica became part of France in 1768, Nice in 1860. Today we view those changes as permanent and beyond dispute, yet changes pre-dating both (Gibraltar) are considered up for grabs 320 years later!

We are probably seen as a soft touch these days, which may be true, especially since Brexit which lost us a lot of friends.
 
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