[Technology] You back-up your data, right?

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

As someone that's worked in IT for over 30 years I'd say your 'IT Guy' doesn't know what he's talking about and the risk of using an external HD for backups is ridiculous.

The only reason I add four EHDs to my cloud back up is the cloud is a work cloud and when I retire I'd need to back everything up, so I may as well do it as I go.

 

[maffew]

The only reason I add four EHDs to my cloud back up is the cloud is a work cloud and when I retire I'd need to back everything up, so I may as well do it as I go.

Definitely a good approach. Expecting Public Ovidious to point out you should have 8 not 4 though in RAID 10 at a different location with some argonite tanks in case of fire

 

[Dorset Seagull]

I learnt the hard way. We always took our laptops home from our office each night……except the night someone smashed a couple of windows and nicked them both. I didn’t have backups and spent months re entering my invoices onto the accounts software.

Since then I have always backed up to the cloud via Mega who give 50mb of free storage.

 

[Dick Head]

As a Luddite - am I ok if my photos are all on iPhone and I back up to iCloud?

As a Luddite you should smash your camera up.

I learnt the hard way. We always took our laptops home from our office each night……except the night someone smashed a couple of windows and nicked them both. I didn’t have backups and spent months re entering my invoices onto the accounts software.

Since then I have always backed up to the cloud via Mega who give 50mb of free storage.

Stingy b*stards.

 

[Is it PotG?]

As a Luddite - am I ok if my photos are all on iPhone and I back up to iCloud?

My biggest concern would be the 'i' prefixes to anything techie

 

[Wardy's twin]

As someone that's worked in IT for over 30 years I'd say your 'IT Guy' doesn't know what he's talking about and the risk of using an external HD for backups is ridiculous.

What's the risk of using EHDs the only concern surely is where you store them and if you do that right what's the problem. Plenty of people focus on the technology RAID (what ever the number is now) to protect from hardware failure my experience (over 30 years mainly in database area) is that most data is lost because of logical corruption and raiding only mirrors that error. having a backup strategy which uses latest technology is good but you need to understand the potential gaps.

 

[Lyndhurst 14]

As someone that's worked in IT for over 30 years I'd say your 'IT Guy' doesn't know what he's talking about and the risk of using an external HD for backups is ridiculous.

I must admit I do wonder how he stays employed, never been any use when I've needed anything

 

[maltaseagull]

If you lose your phone, do you definitely know your icloud login and password? Or do you just rely on your phone to fill it in for you?

I always use my DOB as a password and as hardly anyone remembers my birthday, it must be secure mustn't it?

 

[Dorset Seagull]

As a Luddite you should smash your camera up.



Stingy b*stards.

Don't need any more

 

[beorhthelm]

What's the risk of using EHDs the only concern surely is where you store them and if you do that right what's the problem. Plenty of people focus on the technology RAID (what ever the number is now) to protect from hardware failure my experience (over 30 years mainly in database area) is that most data is lost because of logical corruption and raiding only mirrors that error. having a backup strategy which uses latest technology is good but you need to understand the potential gaps.

you've been protected by sysadmin's swapping out failed or failing drives.

 

[Wardy's twin]

you've been protected by sysadmin's swapping out failed or failing drives.

In the early days or RAID mirroring had a sysadm mirror the new drive of a pair over the remaining good one - thank god for tape . When we were using the big raid boxes from EMC in mid 90's had sys admins telling me the service will never fail - they never read the literature just the headlines , the disks could still fail catastrophically. Some of many events in 27 years as a DBA where we supported about 4000 databases....

 

[Goring-by-Seagull]

But nobody ever looks at them ever again.

Just added clutter and detritus.

I have over 15,000 photos and videos on my phone and I look through them all the time

 

[Screaming J]

I work part time for the National Trust which is currently changing its data files etc to SharePoint.

My experience so far of SharePoint is that it is utter w@nk.

Proved this week when one of my colleagues copied a lot of files from our server to the appropriate bit of the cloud or whatever the w@nky thing is called.

Checks the folder has been moved over. Great. So deletes the copy on the old server.

Comes in next day. Opens the SharePoint folder. It's empty. Many hundreds of valuable PDF files with salvage information about the valuable stuff in our property gone.

Fortunately because we have a back up system on the old server whereby us Admin minions put a tape in everyday eventually we got the data back.

So this post is a bit of a moan about SharePoint, but also emphasising about the importance of backing up data.

BUT when everything finally migrates over to SharePoint (which as you may have guessed I have a low opinion of �� ) the old server and it's back up tapes will be ditched. What the f will we do then if we lose anything? Panic, panic!!

 

[Cheshire Cat]

What's wrong with keeping it all written down in a small notebook?

 

[Bozza]

What's wrong with keeping it all written down in a small notebook?

There's no room in that - it's full of all my passwords.

 

[Wardy's twin]

I work part time for the National Trust which is currently changing its data files etc to SharePoint.

My experience so far of SharePoint is that it is utter w@nk.

Proved this week when one of my colleagues copied a lot of files from our server to the appropriate bit of the cloud or whatever the w@nky thing is called.

Checks the folder has been moved over. Great. So deletes the copy on the old server.

Comes in next day. Opens the SharePoint folder. It's empty. Many hundreds of valuable PDF files with salvage information about the valuable stuff in our property gone.

Fortunately because we have a back up system on the old server whereby us Admin minions put a tape in everyday eventually we got the data back.

So this post is a bit of a moan about SharePoint, but also emphasising about the importance of backing up data.

BUT when everything finally migrates over to SharePoint (which as you may have guessed I have a low opinion of �� ) the old server and it's back up tapes will be ditched. What the f will we do then if we lose anything? Panic, panic!!

and re-emphasises the point that its usually human error (often brought about by change) which is more common than hardware failure.

 

[um bongo molongo]

If you lose your phone, do you definitely know your icloud login and password? Or do you just rely on your phone to fill it in for you?

Now that’s a good question…

 

[beorhthelm]

I work part time for the National Trust which is currently changing its data files etc to SharePoint.

My experience so far of SharePoint is that it is utter w@nk.

Proved this week when one of my colleagues copied a lot of files from our server to the appropriate bit of the cloud or whatever the w@nky thing is called.

Checks the folder has been moved over. Great. So deletes the copy on the old server.

Comes in next day. Opens the SharePoint folder. It's empty. Many hundreds of valuable PDF files with salvage information about the valuable stuff in our property gone.

Fortunately because we have a back up system on the old server whereby us Admin minions put a tape in everyday eventually we got the data back.

So this post is a bit of a moan about SharePoint, but also emphasising about the importance of backing up data.

BUT when everything finally migrates over to SharePoint (which as you may have guessed I have a low opinion of �� ) the old server and it's back up tapes will be ditched. What the f will we do then if we lose anything? Panic, panic!!

yeah thats a problem. "but its backed up..." until someone deletes it without anyone realising a few weeks, months, years, and recover costs £xxx hour to retrieve, if available. trouble with anything-as-a-service, its only guranteed to give you some financial recompense, then only commercially. retail might get a few months free as compensation. cloud is so much cheaper, but at what cost?

 

[PTC Gull]

I work part time for the National Trust which is currently changing its data files etc to SharePoint.

My experience so far of SharePoint is that it is utter w@nk.

Proved this week when one of my colleagues copied a lot of files from our server to the appropriate bit of the cloud or whatever the w@nky thing is called.

Checks the folder has been moved over. Great. So deletes the copy on the old server.

Comes in next day. Opens the SharePoint folder. It's empty. Many hundreds of valuable PDF files with salvage information about the valuable stuff in our property gone.

Fortunately because we have a back up system on the old server whereby us Admin minions put a tape in everyday eventually we got the data back.

So this post is a bit of a moan about SharePoint, but also emphasising about the importance of backing up data.

BUT when everything finally migrates over to SharePoint (which as you may have guessed I have a low opinion of �� ) the old server and it's back up tapes will be ditched. What the f will we do then if we lose anything? Panic, panic!!

Also known as SCAREpoint

 

[Dick Head]

What's wrong with keeping it all written down in a small notebook?

Yes, and what's wrong with keeping all your photos in a couple of old shoe boxes?