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Uncle Spielberg

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Jul 6, 2003
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As the imdb list did not meet the approval of Vorowhatsisname I also checked Rotten Tomatoes generally well respected

All - Fresh 5608 Rotten 385 - average 9.1
T Meter Critics - Fresh 230 Rotten 13 - average 8.5
Critics - Fresh 12 Rotten 0 - average 8.7

Seems fairly comprehensive to me , still Vorowhatsisname knows better.

And Roger Ebert is not to my knowledge a 15 year old internet geek.
 




Uncle Spielberg

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Jul 6, 2003
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But would you agree that very recent and well regarded films probably show up high in the list and then settle back to their true position over time? That might explain why a new film is top and the other currently well regarded movie is in the top 30.

I agree with that it will slip down but should hold in the top 20 of all time, as will WALL.E hold in the top 50 of all time. But it is a good guide and not just a 15 year old geeks list as whatsisname made up.
 


Couldn't Be Hyypia

We've come a long long way together
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Nov 12, 2006
16,465
Near Dorchester, Dorset
I missed Wall.e but the family went to see it (was on cricket tour). They said the first half hour was superb but the rest a bit predictable. IS it really a top 50 of all time film? If so, that makes Summer 08 a classic year for great movies.
 


Everest

Me
Jul 5, 2003
20,741
Southwick
From the British Board of Film Classification

12A – Suitable for 12 years and over. No-one younger than 12 may see a ‘12A’ film in a cinema unless accompanied by an adult. No-one younger than 12 may rent or buy a ‘12’ rated video or DVD. Responsibility for allowing under-12s to view lies with the accompanying or supervising adult.

That clears that up.
 


Kenhead

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Oct 1, 2003
7,054
Brighton
All lists do favour current entries and can be rated higher than what there accurate position really is.

I’m sure that when Southern FM use to do that 500 greatest songs of all-time list which was printed in the local media, there were always some recent songs that were a lot higher up than what it should have been, then would drop heavily the following year.
 




Uncle Spielberg

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Titanic was in the top 5 but is now not in the top 250.
 








Uncle Spielberg

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Jul 6, 2003
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Just to bring up the under 15 comment I give below the split of the votes which shows the votes made up by males under 18 ( not 15 ) to be just 5.4% of the total votes.

See user ratings report for:

Votes Average
Males 111,238 9.4
Females 17,444 9.4
Aged under 18 9,780 9.7
Males under 18 7,358 9.7
Females under 18 2,407 9.4
Aged 18-29 102,126 9.5
Males Aged 18-29 89,015 9.5
Females Aged 18-29 12,768 9.5
Aged 30-44 13,813 9.0
Males Aged 30-44 12,107 9.1
Females Aged 30-44 1,574 8.7
Aged 45+ 2,782 8.3
Males Aged 45+ 2,209 8.3
Females Aged 45+ 536 8.0
IMDb staff 9 8.2
Top 1000 voters 171 8.2
US users 76,403 9.5
Non-US users 52,344 9.3

IMDb users 135,443 9.4
 


Uncle Spielberg

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Conkers

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Jan 11, 2006
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Haywards Heath
I remember the 12A rating being brought in when the first Spiderman film was released as all the little kids were whinging that they weren't going to be able to see the movie. I'm sorry but 12A is the biggest load of crap ever. What is the point of having this rating at all?!?!? If the film is not suitable for under 12's then it's not suitable for under 12's. Simple as that.
 






Uncle Spielberg

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Jul 6, 2003
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Yes, I suppose the demographics reflects the film as a fil will attract a wide range but a specific hardcore. I will post the Sex in the City demographics, that should be interesting.

See user ratings report for Sex and the City

Votes Average
Males 13,569 4.4
Females 10,505 7.4
Aged under 18 1,434 5.1
Males under 18 741 4.1
Females under 18 692 6.5
Aged 18-29 16,938 5.4
Males Aged 18-29 9,341 4.3
Females Aged 18-29 7,526 7.6
Aged 30-44 4,499 5.3
Males Aged 30-44 2,737 4.7
Females Aged 30-44 1,724 7.0
Aged 45+ 1,143 5.4
Males Aged 45+ 658 4.9
Females Aged 45+ 465 7.0
IMDb staff 9 7.7
Top 1000 voters 131 3.9
US users 10,963 5.5
Non-US users 13,113 5.2

IMDb users 25,474 5.4
 


Uncle Spielberg

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More males voted than females, thats blown that theory ???
 




Kukev31

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Feb 2, 2005
818
Birmingham
Of course IMDB ratings aren't going to be perfect, but no poll is. I would say it's as close as you are going to get to a comprehensive list.

And as for the original post I'm not so sure that ratings are that definitive anyway. Maybe 6 is too young to see the film (I haven't seen it yet), but I was watching some 18's at 10/11 and it hasn't done me any harm.
 


Barrel of Fun

Abort, retry, fail
If you say so Paul.

I do. It is all about opinions and not having to rely on IMDB to tell me if I enjoyed a particular film. Titanic, for me, came across as being a boring and predictable (not just the ending!) tale for those who are quite happy to be spoon fed a script and will come out weak at the knees due to computerised special effects.
 


Garage_Doors

Originally the Swankers
Jun 28, 2008
11,790
Brighton
Just to bring up the under 15 comment I give below the split of the votes which shows the votes made up by males under 18 ( not 15 ) to be just 5.4% of the total votes.

See user ratings report for:

Votes Average
Males 111,238 9.4
Females 17,444 9.4
Aged under 18 9,780 9.7
Males under 18 7,358 9.7
Females under 18 2,407 9.4
Aged 18-29 102,126 9.5
Males Aged 18-29 89,015 9.5
Females Aged 18-29 12,768 9.5
Aged 30-44 13,813 9.0
Males Aged 30-44 12,107 9.1
Females Aged 30-44 1,574 8.7
Aged 45+ 2,782 8.3
Males Aged 45+ 2,209 8.3
Females Aged 45+ 536 8.0
IMDb staff 9 8.2
Top 1000 voters 171 8.2
US users 76,403 9.5
Non-US users 52,344 9.3

IMDb users 135,443 9.4


you really should get out more, but not the cinema so often, your coming across as a film geek :D
 


Uncle Spielberg

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Film Geek - Guilty
Internet Geek - Guilty
Under 15 - Not Guilty
 




HampshireSeagulls

Moulding Generation Z
Jul 19, 2005
5,264
Bedford
12A - up to the responsible adult to decide if the child under 12 should watch it. Considering most of the parents do not fall into the "responsible adult" category, and the cinema staff will not turn away a paying customer, is it any wonder so many children are completely mentally f***ed up? In my Year 5 class, I asked the children who had bought, or played the latest version of GTA. About 12 of them. Many more play Call of Duty, the WWF/WWE licenced games, Halo, etc. They frequently tell me how they have watched the latest pirated horror film, and they give all the details, so they are not making it up. Then again, you should see them playing football in the playground (before I banned them!). They take all the bad influences from the televised stuff, and translate it to breaktime - all the "arms wide, chest out" complaining stuff, "tactical hacking", etc, etc. I used to think that the argument that said that children were influenced by TV was bollocks, but not any more. They are numb to violence, it means nothing to them, and they copy the worst behaviour they see modelled - the cartoon wresting violence is copied to the point where we had a child "drop" from the decking onto a prone child below - he had no idea that he was going to cause serious injury (broken ribs and unconsciousness), because he saw it on telly and in video games all the time. There really should be a "driving licence" for parents.
 


hart's shirt

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Jul 8, 2003
10,863
Kitbag in Dubai
I think we've digressed slightly from the original point made.

Edit - not you, Hampshire.
 
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