What's the difference between an iPod and a Audio Jukebox?

[jmc]

£170 for an 4gb Ipod... go for it - though I would recommend an Iriver - 40GB at £230, think it was from MX2...

Horses for courses really, as your gonna stick it in your pocket anyway...unless your a posing twat....

enjoy whatever you choose!

 

[Beach Hut]

I'm happy with my mini-disc still, meets all my needs

 

[Cian]

Well I like my overpriced (£250 or so?), I don't find it underpowered, I'm not, oh wait, let me have a look, nope, not a woman.

If you want to listen to music on the go at the best quality other than using a portable CD player, then buy an ipod, she'll love it!

Its kinda hard to have an underpowered MP3 player - but remember Apple are a COMPUTER maker first and foremost.

 

[Bluejuice]

Yes, and iPod is essentially a hard drive with an MP3 player installed on it.

And considering Apple Mac's are in use pretty much universally in the music industry I'd say they were pretty well qualified to design and build what is currently the world's most popular personal stereo

 

[Cian]

Well, generally the machines made by Apple that audio technicians I know use aren't Macs at all. They're XServes.

These days its far cheaper to use a 600 quid Dell laptop as your frontend and just use a beast of a PPC machine for the audio rendering backend (if its electronic music). However, the college here uses an IBM pSeries as the audio rendering beast, and Windows machines as the frontends.

Apple do not own music anymore, the same as they do not own publishing or graphic design. Or education. They're losing markets everywhere.

 

[Cian]

Also, any monkey can make a HDD MP3 player - its a hard disk, and either a few ASICs - sound, MPEG decoding, IDE transfer; or a basic controller host, which is what the iPod uses.

All the 'innovation' in the iPod is the marketing campaign. The technology was all developed by others, the first to market with a HDD MP3 player was SonicBlue, and others were there before Apple too.

Marketing does not a good product make.

 

[DJ Leon]

Also, any monkey can make a HDD MP3 player - its a hard disk, and either a few ASICs - sound, MPEG decoding, IDE transfer; or a basic controller host, which is what the iPod uses.

All the 'innovation' in the iPod is the marketing campaign. The technology was all developed by others, the first to market with a HDD MP3 player was SonicBlue, and others were there before Apple too.

Marketing does not a good product make.

Who cares? I have an iPod and I love it. I have never once considered whether they made the technology first. I don't see why it's of interest.

Do you work in I.T. MYOB? Because I think you're lost in it.

 

[Cian]

Yes, I work in IT

I will never trust Apple on their hardware quality - this is the company that shipped SIX MILLION machines with buggy motherboards - the first 6,000,000 PPC601/603/604/750 machines - all their post 1993, pre-iMac computers.

There could be a serious flaw in every iPod sold - this in an untrustworthy company we're dealing with here - so don't go crying if all the iPods fail at one time sometime soon...

 

[DJ Leon]

Yes, I work in IT

I will never trust Apple on their hardware quality - this is the company that shipped SIX MILLION machines with buggy motherboards - the first 6,000,000 PPC601/603/604/750 machines - all their post 1993, pre-iMac computers.

There could be a serious flaw in every iPod sold - this in an untrustworthy company we're dealing with here - so don't go crying if all the iPods fail at one time sometime soon...

OK - I won't.

So I presume that everything is GOOD in the world of PCs and Microsoft. No problmes or issues there?

 

[Cian]

Microsoft=evil

Other than that, all's fine. Unlike the Mac, you're not locked into using one OS on your PC. My laptop has never had Windows on it. Not even when sold to me.

 

[Bluejuice]

Oh stick it up your arse. The iPod is fantastic

 

[Cian]

You're only saying that because you have one and can't admit its failings.

As the owner of more Macintoshes currently than most of the Macheads here have ever individually had, my bias is based on fact, not denial

The iPod is a wankers toy. Its crap at what it does and exists solely to boost the owners ego.

 

[MikeySmall]

The ipod is a fantastic piece of equipment. Maybe MYOB is upset because he cannot afford one. All large bluechip companies could be accused of being wan*ers at some point in there history.

 

[beorhthelm]

Nurse, MYOB is in need of his medication.

seriously, how can anyone be so bothered as to hate a computer company and all its products? i think its worse than the fanboys who cant any fault with their favoured bit of kit. The market has chosen iPods over SonicBlue/Creative jobby, and many other OS's over BeOS. get over it.

 

[Bluejuice]

You have still failed to give one convincing reason why the iPod is "crap at what it does" MYOB.

Whatever your beef with Apple there is no way I can see iPod accepting blame, particularly when it is such a lovely feat of engineering.

Do you have an iPod?

 

[Cian]

The ipod is a fantastic piece of equipment. Maybe MYOB is upset because he cannot afford one. All large bluechip companies could be accused of being wan*ers at some point in there history.

I'm currently using a E3,300 (Sony) laptop. I can well afford an iPod if I want one.

 

[tinx]

Ok I have an ipod mini. Because it looks good, sounds good and does absolutely everythign I want from an mp3 player. And compared with others I looked at it sounded as good if not better even with the shitty earphones supplied with the unit.

I can conclude one thing, MYOB just dislikes anything with the apple logo on it and will try and justify why. Who cares who did it first, Apple does it now very well and have something like a 40% market share when it comes to hard drive mp3 players and I can't see it decreasing any time soon so they must be doing something right.

 

[jmc]

but what about the shitty battery life?


- reason why I bought an Iriver.

 

[itszamora]

but what about the shitty battery life?


- reason why I bought an Iriver.

I've had my 2nd gen iPod for about 18 months now, and have never had any problems with the battery. Or anything else to do with it in fact.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

this is the company that shipped SIX MILLION machines with buggy motherboards - the first 6,000,000 PPC601/603/604/750 machines - all their post 1993, pre-iMac computers.

There could be a serious flaw in every iPod sold - this in an untrustworthy company we're dealing with here - so don't go crying if all the iPods fail at one time sometime soon...

Pretty much everything the Albion did in the post 1993, pre-Withdean period was crap.

But that doesn't mean we should support Leyton Orient.