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What is more important to you, Winning or Playing attractive football?



Hornblower

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
1,710
Reading through the postings since the game last night there seems to be a clear division emerging amongst posters. There are those who feel that the way we play, win or lose is the most important thing and then there are those who only seem to care about winning even at the expense of attractive football. For me I am firmly in the former camp. I've been watching BHA for over 40 years and whilst I am always keen to see them do well, I have to be honest and say that I would rather see them play attractive football and lose, even slip down the league again, than resort to the kind of tactics that WHU deployed last night or the way we played under some previous managers of the recent past. The fact is that I have enjoyed games where we have played good football (regardless of the result) in all leagues and I can't honestly say that playing in higher leagues necessarily increases my enjoyment. I guess what it boils down to is that I love the club and I want to be proud of my club and that does not necessarily equate to winning games and rising up the league. I feel sorry for those who feel differently because when you've supported the albion for as long as I have, you know that if you are only here for the wins then you are going to be sorely disappointed.
 






Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
62,145
Location Location
Dunno about winning. Going by this place, I think WHINING is most important thing to some people.
 


Bob!

Coffee Buyer
Jul 5, 2003
11,484
Winning, playing attractive football is always a good option
 








The Large One

Who's Next?
Jul 7, 2003
52,343
97.2FM
I'm just looking forward to the day when a Brighton & Hove Albion team plays the way Gus wants them to with some seriously shit-hot players. Every week.

Winning will then be a natural consequence of playing attractive football.
 






Tony Meolas Loan Spell

Slut Faced Whores
Jul 15, 2004
18,068
Vamanos Pest
Being a Brighton fan its more than that simple option. Before you know it we are down the Mcghee "performances not points" road.

If it was about winning then we would all be Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal or the new kid on the block City fans
 


Pantani

Il Pirata
Dec 3, 2008
5,445
Newcastle
Couldn't agree more. It is all about the style of football for me. Under Adams mark II it was truly shocking to watch us, people talk about no plan B with this side but that side's plan A was just to pump the ball in to the box from anywhere and everywhere. Plan B was to pump it in to the box from somewhere and nowhere. It didn't work then and still wouldn't now. You can play that way if, like West Ham, you have a team of big, strong and athletic players. These players do not come cheap though and I will always prefer us to play it on the deck.
 


SULLY COULDNT SHOOT

Loyal2Family+Albion!
Sep 28, 2004
11,334
Izmir, Southern Turkey
The two or not mutually exclusive. The fact is that in the Champ you dont win regularly if you play hoofball.
 




Sussex Nomad

Well-known member
Aug 26, 2010
18,185
EP
Are people really suggesting a win at all costs situation? Because if they have I haven't read it, perhaps through choice. I have read a fair few posts suggesting we still play our attractive style but with more strength and conviction. I don't see that as a change in the plan?
 


Hornblower

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
1,710
Are people really suggesting a win at all costs situation? Because if they have I haven't read it, perhaps through choice. I have read a fair few posts suggesting we still play our attractive style but with more strength and conviction. I don't see that as a change in the plan?

Playing the Gus way and winning is the perfect combination but if I had to plump for one or the other I would stick with playing the Gus way even if it means losing one nil to an ugly side.
 


MRWHU

New member
Oct 25, 2011
12
As a West Ham fan 'benefiting' in terms of results from awful, long ball, percentage, boring, dull football I can categorically tell you I'd rather be watching a quality, passing football team every week. I don't see the two as mutually exclusive. I don't see why you can't defend like West Ham did last night and break at pace using wingers and gut busting midfielders getting up to support a front two as opposed to just letting the opposition have the ball and see what they can do with it like we did.

That said, I don't think Brighton are making that choice yet. Dozens of passes across your own back four does not constitute passing football and beyond that Brighton don't appear to have any creativity.

Leeds seemed to have the right balance when we played them early in the season at UP (2-2) but they lost some of their better players in the transfer window.

I've got plenty of West Ham fans trying to convince me I have the choice of awful winning football and exciting losing football but I really don't see it that way. What's the point of it if that's the case?

Enjoyed the non-footballing elements last night. Good banter before and after the game and even waiting 45 minutes in a queue for a 1950's bus to the race course was a laugh. Good luck for the rest of the season and I hope your passing football ethic pays off eventually
 




Tony Meolas Loan Spell

Slut Faced Whores
Jul 15, 2004
18,068
Vamanos Pest
That said, I don't think Brighton are making that choice yet. Dozens of passes across your own back four does not constitute passing football and beyond that Brighton don't appear to have any creativity.

Thank you! If anyone was in any doubt this is what I mean by FANNYING. Then we get pressured, then we make a mistake, then we concede a goal.
 


keaton

Big heart, hot blood and balls. Big balls
Nov 18, 2004
9,890
I think it misses the point a bit. At the moment, with the players and staff we have our best chance of winning is playing attractive football
 


pasty

A different kind of pasty
Jul 5, 2003
30,813
West, West, West Sussex
Much rather watch us than the rubbish WHU served up last night. Jonathan Liew in The Telegraph is pretty scathing of them.

The art of league success is in winning ugly, so the maxim goes; and it is difficult to imagine a more hideous triumph than West Ham’s last night.

Telegraph Sport
 






Pavilionaire

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
31,093
I agree with MRWHU's post entirely.

To be really effective you have to be able to pass the ball but also do it one touch and at pace. Gus is making big demands on our players (rightly so) and some are coming up short of the mark.

As for West Ham last night, fair play they got the result but at the complete expense of their principles. Is this really the club of Devonshire, Moore, Brooking? The Academy Of Football? Looks to me as though Big Sam is being the Ultimate Pragmatist, parking the bus with 9 men behind the ball in the knowledge half this division isn't good enough to score and knowing he'll get one or two chances on the break.
 


Shooting Star

Well-known member
Apr 29, 2011
2,878
Suffolk
I'd rather the passing brand of football Gus has established at the club. Results speak for themselves; when we haven't played our passing football we've lost (Leicester, Palace, not sure how we played against Ipswich but I imagine it wasn't brilliant). Personally I think last night was the first time this season that we've lost playing our passing football for more or less 90 minutes. That's a testament to how effective it usually is, and there is a reason why Gus said we're back. All we needed last night was Vicente or a taller striker (*cough*Murray*cough*) to grab at least a point. I didn't feel like we lost, I wonder if the Hammers fans there came away feeling like they'd just won 3 points (may be a silly question, but for example against Blackpool, I felt like we'd lost 3 points with the way the game ended, not gained 1)? If we continue to play the way we did last night, we'll be soaring up the table again.
 


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