Vote ukip

[crookie]

Good.
I can as well.

Hitler wanted to conquer Europe, Farage wants as little do do with it as possible !!

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Hitler was pretty "Straight talking".

What about the EU then? The euro has ruined Spain has it not. What about house prices, they still as bad or is there a recovery.

 

[Soulman]

You seem to forget that individual union members decide whether the political levy part of their subscriptions goes to the labour party or not. I believe it was also individual members of the unions that voted in the election as opposed to the implication it was the old fashioned block voting!

Did i forget, I've not forgotten the hold the Unions had on the Labour party in the past, and as stated the companies that back the Tories for favours....just pointed out to the poster that was smirking that UKIP have got the backing of a Porn backer......surely this fellow will not have the same influence as the backers of the other two.

 

[The Fifth Column]

I dont particularly like UKIP or Nige Farage, they have a fair few bellends amongst their ranks prone to making some dreadful comments and gaffes, actually because of that they seem fairly normal like the rest of us! And because i dislike the Tory and Labour liars even less they seem as good a party as any to vote for so I'm in.

 

[WhingForPresident]

And another UKIP candidate recently on Question Time.

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

Ukip all the way....they will get more votes than many think
We need someone with a backbone and someone who speaks their mind.

But his mind is usually wrong. Don't let the FACTS get in the way of your policies.

 

[Soulman]

It wasn't a BBC selected audience, Nige was put right on that tonight by Dimbleby

Yeah, of course he was, and the morons believed it.

It earlier emerged that Thursday's debate featuring the leaders of "challenger" parties had an audience where just ONE THIRD leaned towards the political right.

The Ukip leader was booed on the programme when he suggested the make-up of the BBC election debate audience was left wing "even by the left-wing standards of the BBC".

Host David Dimbleby even insisted the audience had been “carefully chosen” by independent polling organisation ICM to represent the balance between all parties.

But when the make-up of audience members was finally revealed it showed that nearly 70 per cent were left wing.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politi...-Question-Time

 

[Soulman]

I think if we scrutinised the average person's political views in this country, we would find that a vast majority of people are left-wing - including yourself, if we take away contemporary right-wing issues such as the EU and immigration. Afterall, we all want to live in a fairer, more equal society.

When Farage accused the audience of being left-wing, he was essentially accusing them of not being critical enough of the EU & immigration.

Well the BBC admitted it, that's why they are giving him his own slot to appease, many on here slated Farage when he stated the audience was skewed...........just spin it any way you want Mustafa, no surprise there.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Yeah, of course he was, and the morons believed it.

It earlier emerged that Thursday's debate featuring the leaders of "challenger" parties had an audience where just ONE THIRD leaned towards the political right.

The Ukip leader was booed on the programme when he suggested the make-up of the BBC election debate audience was left wing "even by the left-wing standards of the BBC".

Host David Dimbleby even insisted the audience had been “carefully chosen” by independent polling organisation ICM to represent the balance between all parties.

But when the make-up of audience members was finally revealed it showed that nearly 70 per cent were left wing.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politi...-Question-Time

I saw that yesterday, and thought typical. The media and the other parties are trying and doing anything to ruin UKIP at the moment. We all know it's about the numbers and that fact not one single party wants to talk about that part. Labours half measures which you will hear about today will do nothing to control the numbers. Whoever gets in is stuffed and we will still be running at 300,000+ people a year and what with the thousands of Asylum cases backing up in Italy we are all soon going to have to share the burden of taking more people. The whole thing is out of control.

 

[Hastings gull]

I think if we scrutinised the average person's political views in this country, we would find that a vast majority of people are left-wing - including yourself, if we take away contemporary right-wing issues such as the EU and immigration. Afterall, we all want to live in a fairer, more equal society.

When Farage accused the audience of being left-wing, he was essentially accusing them of not being critical enough of the EU & immigration.

This is a hugely sweeping statement. What evidence do you have that the majority is left-wing? I imagine that many folk believe in fairness, but it is arrogant to then assume that this is a left wing trait necessarily. You can be wealthy, right wing etc etc and still believe in a fair society.Left wingers may want equality, well, usually for everyone else in my experience, and the equality bit can tend to dry up when choices have to be made for the children's schooling!
I would suggest that most folk would certainly opt for a fairer society, but that does not necessarily always equate with an equal society. I taught for 35 years and even if I say so myself, worked really hard and mostly with great idealism for the kids, but do recall the frustration at other colleagues having equal pay but not demonstrating the same work ethic. It was equal but not, in my humble opinion, fair.

 

[Soulman]

Absolute tosh. What he stated was he thought the audience was left-wing, which it seems he was correct as backed up by the figures and the BBC climbdown, the rest is an add on from yours truly, so fiction.

 

[Soulman]

The most widely read publication in the world, The Daily Mail, is largely albeit discreetly supportive of UKIP and their policies... as well as many of the other right-wing media outlets.

However the British people quite effortlessly see past UKIP's twisted ideologies. Your understanding that the media is trying to "ruin" UKIP, is confused by often genuine reports of what they really represent.

The British public does not want a radical-right Britain - chances are they don't even want a conservative Britain this time round. This will all become more apparent post-election, as UKIP do not send an earthquake through British politics as they only win a seat or two at the very most.

UKIP supporters such as yourself shout very loudly on social media and the party is frequently discussed by the mainstream media, giving the false perception that they are a well supported party - but in reality, they are despised by many and supported by few.

You will get dizzy if you keep on spinning.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

The most widely read publication in the world, The Daily Mail, is largely albeit discreetly supportive of UKIP and their policies... as well as many of the other right-wing media outlets.

However the British people quite effortlessly see past UKIP's twisted ideologies. Your understanding that the media is trying to "ruin" UKIP, is confused by often genuine reports of what they really represent.

The British public does not want a radical-right Britain - chances are they don't even want a conservative Britain this time round. This will all become more apparent post-election, as UKIP do not send an earthquake through British politics as they only win a seat or two at the very most.

UKIP supporters such as yourself shout very loudly on social media and the party is frequently discussed by the mainstream media, giving the false perception that they are a well supported party - but in reality, they are despised by many and supported by few.

What like some accountability from the other parties on the numbers and what plans they have in place to be able cope with the increased numbers we are going to see year after year, is that too much to ask, nobody answers the questions

 

[Felpham Seagull]

It wasn't a BBC selected audience, Nige was put right on that tonight by Dimbleby

Who works for the BBC

 

[Diablo]

Surely all.... Working British people...Have sympathy with UKIP.

 

[Soulman]

Only if they have a very limited understanding of politics, or they are rather well off.

An ordinary working British person should support greater equality - improved wages, more spending power, better working conditions, more public money to the NHS - a healthier, fairer and more progressive society to which to bring up their children. These are all things that UKIP do NOT represent.

Well these morals and issues were a great success under 13 years of Labour......not..........and i am "an ordinary working British person", who got left out of these utopian ideals.

 

[Diablo]

Only if they have a very limited understanding of politics, or they are rather well off.

An ordinary working British person should support greater equality - improved wages, more spending power, better working conditions, more public money to the NHS - a healthier, fairer and more progressive society to which to bring up their children. These are all things that UKIP do NOT represent.

We would all like-" improved wages, more spending power, better working conditions, more public money to the NHS" where however might all this money come from ?...UKIP would start with less immigration cutting down on scroungers and benefits....somewhat baffled by your "Ordinary" Working British Person what makes one ordinary and therefore presumably some extraordinary.

 

[Soulman]

We would all like-" improved wages, more spending power, better working conditions, more public money to the NHS" where however might all this money come from ?...UKIP would start with less immigration cutting down on scroungers and benefits....somewhat baffled by your "Ordinary" Working British Person what makes one ordinary and therefore presumably some extraordinary.

It was actually the "ordinary working British person" that got completely left out by Labour, they went (as admitted) for the vote catchers, which you mentioned.

 

[Hastings gull]

Only if they have a very limited understanding of politics, or they are rather well off.

An ordinary working British person should support greater equality - improved wages, more spending power, better working conditions, more public money to the NHS - a healthier, fairer and more progressive society to which to bring up their children. These are all things that UKIP do NOT represent.

Yet again, another hugely sweeping statement, tinged with the usual element of arrogance. Obviously they might want to vote UKIP as they do not have the same high level of understanding as yourself - yet those who have indicated a desire to vote UKIP on NSC write just as fluently as you do, and it is thus reasonable to assume that they DO have understanding. In last year's by-election in Rochdale, the UKIP candidate polled about 11,000 votes in a traditional Labour stronghold -it is thus equally reasonable to assume that most of those were not well off, nor for that matter in the two Kent constituencies. Where UKIP score points is that what they say, however politically incorrect, unfashionable and indelicate, resonates with working folk, whose grip on the realities of life are rather tighter than those of your good self.
As to whether working people should strive towards greater equality, and a progressive society, whatever that means,I am not at all sure that this would be everyone's aim. By all means let us strive towards fairness, which will probably in its wake bring an element of equality. Ask anyone earning say £25,000 if they are happy that a family on benefits has an equal income, and I suspect that they would not see this as fair. Perhaps they should, but this brings us back to my original point that a party which states what people really feel, will get votes. You and doubtless others might not like it, but this is why the UKIPs of this world flourish, when mainstream parties headed by "Eton toffs" and "North London geeks" are viewed to be distant from the lives of everyday folk.

 

[Diablo]

Only if they have a very limited understanding of politics, or they are rather well off.

An ordinary working British person should support greater equality - improved wages, more spending power, better working conditions, more public money to the NHS - a healthier, fairer and more progressive society to which to bring up their children. These are all things that UKIP do NOT represent.

I consider myself an "Ordinary working British Person " are you ??