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Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo

I believe in Joe Hendry
Oct 4, 2003
11,820
Is it same as PL in that promoted clubs find it very hard to stay up

They've had a format change this season and the top division has been expanded from 16 to 18 sides but previously there was only 1 relegation spot so it's a lot easier to stay up. I believe the last team to be relegated straight after being promoted were OH Leuven in the 15-16 season.

The two promoted teams from last season Beerschot and the returning OH Leuven are sitting in 6th and 7th respectively. Waasland-Beveren who were reprieved from relegation last season on appeal due to the season being cut short are currently bottom again.
 


amexer

Well-known member
Aug 8, 2011
6,607
They've had a format change this season and the top division has been expanded from 16 to 18 sides but previously there was only 1 relegation spot so it's a lot easier to stay up. I believe the last team to be relegated straight after being promoted were OH Leuven in the 15-16 season.

The two promoted teams from last season Beerschot and the returning OH Leuven are sitting in 6th and 7th respectively. Waasland-Beveren who were reprieved from relegation last season on appeal due to the season being cut short are currently bottom again.

Thank you
 






Ali_rrr

Well-known member
Feb 4, 2011
2,809
Utrecht, NL
Another question What is TV income in Belgium PL

Not a lot.


Here in The Netherlands they're constantly discussing whether or not to create a BeNe league, a mix between the two countries. This supposedly means there would be extra TV revenue for teams in both countries.
 


Live by the sea

Well-known member
Oct 21, 2016
4,718
Income for Belgium top flight is tiny in comparison to the PL . Eleven sports last year announced a new 5 year deal for just under £100m per season But 80% of that money goes to the so called big 5 teams in Belgium regardless of where they finish in the league .
 




schmunk

Centrist Dad
Jan 19, 2018
10,102
Mid mid mid Sussex
BeNe league

:lolol:

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Postman Pat

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Jul 24, 2007
6,972
Coldean
Not a lot.


Here in The Netherlands they're constantly discussing whether or not to create a BeNe league, a mix between the two countries. This supposedly means there would be extra TV revenue for teams in both countries.

Professional clubs in Belgium have voted in favour of merging with the Dutch Eredivisie, in a move that could happen in 2025.

25 Belgian clubs have taken the remarkable step of 'establishing Beneliga,' which would see clubs in Belgium and Netherlands merge in one football pyramid.

The idea has been floated in the past but previously there has not been unanimous support from the Belgian Pro League as there is now.

Television deals in the two countries run until 2025 which would be the opportunity for a league restructure from both parties and allow the possibility.

https://www.sportbible.com/football...eague-could-merge-in-2025-after-vote-20210316
 


Ali_rrr

Well-known member
Feb 4, 2011
2,809
Utrecht, NL
Professional clubs in Belgium have voted in favour of merging with the Dutch Eredivisie, in a move that could happen in 2025.

25 Belgian clubs have taken the remarkable step of 'establishing Beneliga,' which would see clubs in Belgium and Netherlands merge in one football pyramid.

The idea has been floated in the past but previously there has not been unanimous support from the Belgian Pro League as there is now.

Television deals in the two countries run until 2025 which would be the opportunity for a league restructure from both parties and allow the possibility.

https://www.sportbible.com/football...eague-could-merge-in-2025-after-vote-20210316

It's all good and well for the bigger clubs (Anderlecht, Ajax, PSV etc) but it'll be awful for the smaller clubs. My local team, ADO Den Haag, will most likely be shafted by it even if they were not a dead certain this year to go down. It's like if we merged with the German league, clubs like Brighton, Southampton and Schalke would be immediately in the second division, undoing the hard work to get ourselves up.

Would we see a financial benefit from being in the second league? Most likely not. That's what will happen here. In Belgium, the top 80 per cent of TV revenue is distributed between Anderlecht, Standard Liege, Club Brugge, Genk, and Gent. That'll just include Ajax, Feyenoord and PSV but not teams like ADO Den Haag or Fortuna Sittard.


Whilst there are already BeNe leagues in hockey and basketball, it will just create a huge gap in football that will further remove the competition in the Eredivisie.
 




Trufflehound

Re-enfranchised
Aug 5, 2003
14,117
The democratic and free EU
It's all good and well for the bigger clubs (Anderlecht, Ajax, PSV etc) but it'll be awful for the smaller clubs. My local team, ADO Den Haag, will most likely be shafted by it even if they were not a dead certain this year to go down. It's like if we merged with the German league, clubs like Brighton, Southampton and Schalke would be immediately in the second division, undoing the hard work to get ourselves up.

Would we see a financial benefit from being in the second league? Most likely not. That's what will happen here. In Belgium, the top 80 per cent of TV revenue is distributed between Anderlecht, Standard Liege, Club Brugge, Genk, and Gent. That'll just include Ajax, Feyenoord and PSV but not teams like ADO Den Haag or Fortuna Sittard.


Whilst there are already BeNe leagues in hockey and basketball, it will just create a huge gap in football that will further remove the competition in the Eredivisie.

I'd be surprised (and disappointed) if a BeneLiga ever became reality.

There was a women's BeNe league a few seasons ago. That only lasted three years before arguments over distributing the money caused it all to collapse.

With the men's game you also have the fact that, at the moment, the Dutch and Belgians get 5 CL/Europa League spots each. That would obviously get reduced, probably to 5 between them. How that gets sorted and split has always been one of the arguments that has scuppered this idea when it's been floated in the past.
 


Ali_rrr

Well-known member
Feb 4, 2011
2,809
Utrecht, NL
I'd be surprised (and disappointed) if a BeneLiga ever became reality.

There was a women's BeNe league a few seasons ago. That only lasted three years before arguments over distributing the money caused it all to collapse.

With the men's game you also have the fact that, at the moment, the Dutch and Belgians get 5 CL/Europa League spots each. That would obviously get reduced, probably to 5 between them. How that gets sorted and split has always been one of the arguments that has scuppered this idea when it's been floated in the past.


I saw that the UEFA chief stated that they wouldn't give out 10 spots for sure. The money again is a big factor hence why I was also surprised that all the Belgian teams voted for it, especially the big 5. Do they really think they'd get more money combining with the Dutch league? I think not. Talking to people here, it's usually only Ajax/Feyenoord/PSV fans that have never been to a game that support the idea.
 


Springal

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Feb 12, 2005
24,617
GOSBTS
Alex Muzio was interviewed on the athletic Chapman & Ornstein podcast. Some good bits about Union in there, and his view on the Beneleague
 




Change at Barnham

Well-known member
Aug 6, 2011
5,306
Bognor Regis
There's a cracking article by Andy Naylor in The Athletic about Union Saint-Gilloise's growth since Tony Bloom became the majority shareholder.

As usual the story is behind a paywall. Here's a snippet:

They had narrowly avoided relegation to the third tier when the Muzio/Bloom partnership took control.
The club had an annual budget of around £3.5 million, average crowds of 1,500 and an amateurish set-up. It reeked of long-running decay.
“When we arrived, the players would arrive at the stadium, get changed, get in their cars, drive to a training pitch with no toilets, no facilities, no nothing, train, get back in their cars, drive back to the stadium, shower and then go home,” Muzio says.
“That’s what we were dealing with and we wanted to professionalise. There wasn’t the option in Brussels to do that.”
Suitable training facilities were found in Lier, 30 miles north of Brussels. Muzio, responsible for the day-to-day running of the club, set about the task of making Union more professional while retaining its soul.
“The spirit has remained the same and it’s important that we are involved in the community,” he says. “It’s a fanbase that has equality in mind, very anti-racism and a certain feeling about it.


https://theathletic.com/2471524/2021/03/26/union-saint-gilloise-the-belgian-club-brighton-owner-bloom-is-helping-back-to-the-top/?source=ukdailyemail
 




Hugo Rune

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NSC Patron
Feb 23, 2012
23,362
Brighton
Has anyone else tried getting USG merchandise?

They don’t seem to ship to this country. Must be due to Covid?
 


Pavilionaire

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
31,089
I don't know why Luxembourg don't try and get a team in that new league. The population is 600,000+ and although they have many migrants they should be just as viable as the likes of Iceland.

You'd think playing in that league would help improve their players too.
 








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