Pevenseagull
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- Jul 20, 2003
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Ben Wallace keeping on top of war and stuff. Probably having to make his own tea .... Hang on ...
And he's gone (BJ that is)
And he's gone (BJ that is)
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[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...
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clapham_gull
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- Aug 20, 2003
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Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
He’s going, but I will believe it when I see it.
Papa Lazarou
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Machiavelli
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While others are pointing out that he mentioned a potential leadership bid, the most striking comment in that interview was that he said 'We made him PM'. By 'we', he's referring to the hardline Brexiters, ERG, etc. That illustrates just how much power and agency they collectively view themselves as holding.
And while everyone's talking about character, personality, and so forth, something else has been going on. Many within the ERG (Baker, Frost, Bridgen) have turned against Johnson citing the policy framework he's delivered. That's because Johnson hasn't delivered the Singapore-on-Thames that they want implemented. That means a flat tax (pay attention [MENTION=1200]Harry Wilson's tackle[/MENTION]), reductions in overall taxation, a privatised NHS, the rest of public services slashed, and so on.
What this actually illustrates is what was blindingly obvious in the first half of 2016: although many thought that the Leave/Remain option on the ballot paper was a binary choice, it wasn't; on the Remain side there was continuity, whille on the Leave side, there were multiple different visions that were articulated, so there was actually a one/many option on the ballot paper.
Now we've been subjected to Brexit, all the leading Brexiters are now basically saying, well this wasn't my vision of Brexit and if only this vision was implemented, all will be right with the world.
More fool those for being led on that particular merry dance. The tragedy is that they were predominantly old, and will leave the young with that mess. Ditto with Johnson. Ditto with the climate crisis.
I keep on saying: we need a different politics, a radically different politics. Those clinging to the notion of the centre are just as culpable as the Brexiters, Tories and Johnson.
Meade's Ball
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Headline: Boris to resign today.
I feel joyful, but then terrified of what's to come.
I feel joyful, but then terrified of what's to come.
Done deal……
beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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just observation, would expect this chaos lead to selling of £ and shares. both up today, who is PM doesnt matter.
The major takeaway I have from large parts of yesterday is just how terrified the Tories are of a General Election
Great news for the country. Unless of course Raab takes over.
Johnson is resigning as tory party leader, but not as prime minister.
****ing hell - he's completely insane!
****ing hell - he's completely insane!
This is the right thing to do BUT all Tory voters and supporters must accept their part in this sorry tale. The warning signs were there long before you voted him your leader.
Horton's halftime iceberg
Blooming Marvellous
PM can not be the current PM until Autumn that is just as MAD
Isn't that 'normal' in these circumstances. I think Theresa May did the same.