Their inability to cope with the technology of the 21st century, has me wondering if...
...I'm actually The Minister of Transport.
If they emailed me of my appointment, I'm unlikely to have read it.
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[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...
- Thread starter TomandJerry
- Start date
...I'm actually The Minister of Transport.
If they emailed me of my appointment, I'm unlikely to have read it.
Pevenseagull
meh
- Jul 20, 2003
- 20,432
This is all getting rather delicious
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
This ignorant woman thinks junior doctors aren’t qualified! The Tories are desperate if they have to use her as a Health Secretary. 6 weeks in post but knows nothing.
- Jul 10, 2003
- 27,346
This will be the Health Secretary who has been in place for 6 weeks or 'just another f***ing useless trainee minister scraped from the bottom of the barrel' as I prefer to call her
She was interviewed on R4 this morning. Shocking performance. Has no grip on her brief. Totally out of her depth. The nasty party has resorted to scraping the bottom of the barrel now.
- Aug 24, 2020
- 6,564
"Junior Doctors or Doctors in training as I prefer to call them" - Victoria Atkins, Health Secretary in training.
That's just a ham-fisted attempt to downgrade the role of junior doctors, to control their wage costs.
Six weeks in, and she's already made her first cock-up. She's got potential.
That's just a ham-fisted attempt to downgrade the role of junior doctors, to control their wage costs.
Six weeks in, and she's already made her first cock-up. She's got potential.
nicko31
Well-known member
Australia is calling remember and they pay a shit load more
Indeed. You rarely see a consultant these days unless you have a major health issue and a major decision is needed. The doctors you see routinely are all 'junior'. Weasel words from another shill.
Ditto Canada. One of my 'junior doctor' colleagues (who did 4 years' of research in my lab) moved to Victoria some years ago. In his 30s, married with kids, and close to divorce in the UK owing to the hours he was putting in and the relative lack of income. He had to move to save everything, and was bitter and angry about it. We have been losing good people for at least a decade thanks to 'austerity'.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Yet, I still see ignorant racists saying they can't get an appointment or have to wait hours for an ambulance because we have too many 'illegals'.
I always reply you are more likely to be treated by an immigrant than be in queue behind them. Our own trained medical staff are moving out as soon as they can for a decent life.
nicko31
Well-known member
So much damage, I despair with the brain drain and the government disasterous trade deal with now richer countries don't help
- Aug 24, 2020
- 6,564
I remember reading an article (probably around Brexit time) that attempted to address the problem of 'why can't you get an appointment with your GP'. The answer was quite illuminating, not due to 'illegals' or a lack of doctors, and was due to something I hadn't expected at all.Yet, I still see ignorant racists saying they can't get an appointment or have to wait hours for an ambulance because we have too many 'illegals'.
I always reply you are more likely to be treated by an immigrant than be in queue behind them. Our own trained medical staff are moving out as soon as they can for a decent life.
It was down to the way that patients were able to book appointments. Surgeries reported that small subsets of patients were booking up multiple appointments in advance, in case they needed them. I don't know how comprehensive the survey was.
You would have thought that this would be easy to fix though. Operate a policy of no hypochondriacs, and tell those patients not to abuse the system. If they continue to do so, limit them to booking only one appointment in advance at any one time. Alternatively, remove the forward booking facility entirely. At my wife's surgery, they have done this. To get an appointment for that day, you have to ring up at 8am and take your chances.
Imagine fashioning one's entire electoral strategy, and policy portfolio around thinking "what is most likely to attract the votes of ignorant racists?" I am sure we have had bad governments in the past, people keen to deny votes for women and working people for example, but this present lot really seem to me to be as low as it can get.Yet, I still see ignorant racists saying they can't get an appointment or have to wait hours for an ambulance because we have too many 'illegals'.
I always reply you are more likely to be treated by an immigrant than be in queue behind them. Our own trained medical staff are moving out as soon as they can for a decent life.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
I've heard this too and also my GP practice has screen with various bits of info coming up, including missed appointments, which often run into the hundreds each month.
- Aug 24, 2020
- 6,564
Hundreds of missed appointments (in one surgery) each month is unacceptable and if allocated to people who actually need them, would go some way to alleviating the
perceived and real problem of 'can't get an appointment with my GP' wrongly blamed on immigrants by Patel, Braverman and their ilk.
If the government are pleading poverty with the junior doctors, perhaps they could have spent £240 million on them, rather than wasting it on sending no migrants whatsoever to Rwanda. Or vow never to let Liz Truss (estimated cost to the country 30 billion) anywhere near any position of power ever again.
(Apologies for the digression. Back to the Tory meltdown/Michelle Mone's moans/Victoria Atkins, Health Secretary in training).
Machiavelli
Well-known member
The brass neck of the Tories 15 years ago claiming that 'Britain is broken'. I'm by no means Blair's biggest fan, but New Labour left behind robust public services and significant growth. The only achievement I can identify with this lot is that unemployment has remained pretty low within a no/low growth regime. And then you consider the downsides they've inflicted upon us: public services on its last legs, local government heading towards bankruptcy, Brexit, redistribution from poor to rich, no/low growth, and much more.
Those that have put an 'X' alongside one of their candidates need to have a long, hard look at themselves.
Those that have put an 'X' alongside one of their candidates need to have a long, hard look at themselves.
Pavilionaire
Well-known member
- Jul 7, 2003
- 31,089
Another quarter goes by with bugger all growth. That's 6 quarters in a row. That miserable run started with the return to normality after Covid when, arguably, the effects of Brexit - without being obscured by Covid - began to play out.
At what point do our politicians actually put their heads above the parapet, acknowledge it isn't working, acknowledge our economy is 4% worse off per year and address what they are going to do about it? Where's the Big Plan Rishi, where are these benefits we were promised? Do people really value perceived "sovereignty" and "taking back control" over the education of their children or treatment for cancer?
It will be hard to ignore the subject for much longer given import checks on N Ireland / EU goods will finally commence on 31st January 2024. That will only add to the costs of red tape and the overall price of imported goods.
I also wonder to what extent the sluggish performance of the German and French economies is as a result of their big UK market not having a pot to piss in.
At what point do our politicians actually put their heads above the parapet, acknowledge it isn't working, acknowledge our economy is 4% worse off per year and address what they are going to do about it? Where's the Big Plan Rishi, where are these benefits we were promised? Do people really value perceived "sovereignty" and "taking back control" over the education of their children or treatment for cancer?
It will be hard to ignore the subject for much longer given import checks on N Ireland / EU goods will finally commence on 31st January 2024. That will only add to the costs of red tape and the overall price of imported goods.
I also wonder to what extent the sluggish performance of the German and French economies is as a result of their big UK market not having a pot to piss in.
It says something that Jim Hacker now seems like a model of competent governance.