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[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...







goldstone

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
7,165
as i usually vote lib dem, i'm interested to know why you wouldn't vote labour?
I associate Labour with Arthur Scargill and his bunch of idiots and always will. Not my kind of people. And then there was Tony Blair who tried to update their image and what did he do? Take us into an illegal and disasterous war against the will of the people.
 






Silverhatch

Well-known member
Feb 23, 2009
4,605
Preston Park
Capital is international. At the risk of getting an ice pick to make my ears burn, socialism, even democratic socialism, needs to be international too. The right, with it's obsession with protecting the power of the nation state, has recognised this far more than the left has.
Capital is international. Capitalism in its current guise resembles a Soviet Apparatchik model whereby member interests are all important and elites are deified and enriched enriched beyond the imagination of the hoi polloi.
 




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,822
1. Stopping illegal migrants. REALLY stopping them.
2. Greatly reducing taxes.
3. Dismantle the NHS and find an alternative.
that list is as daft as "spend moar money".
 








Nobby

Well-known member
Sep 29, 2007
2,866
I think the happy answer is yes. But they've got to get out and vote and they've got to exercise the discipline to vote tactically when necessary.

The UK and the US are the same, when the sensible people are riled to action, the loons find they don't have the numbers. Not quite
Really hope so. 🙏🙏🙏
I was thinking of the £650K threshold. I didn’t realise the residence exemption for children applied to grown up children, although both of them are still at uni, at the moment.
Yes it does. So £1m threshold
 












stewart12

Well-known member
Jan 16, 2019
1,790
I missed that referendum....

also, whilst I disagreed with that invasion personally, there was a general election very shortly after which Labour comfortably won
 




nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
18,191
Gods country fortnightly


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,822
I'm sure this will feature heavily in The Sun, The Express, The Mail, The Telegraph, The Spectator and a few weird TV channels in the coming days. They'll be hold the government's feet to the fire demanding answers..
they probably will - the revenue is coming from raises to corp tax, energy levy, frozen allowances on higher rates. they'll be calling for tax cuts.
 


Bodian

Well-known member
May 3, 2012
13,446
Cumbria
I associate Labour with Arthur Scargill and his bunch of idiots and always will. Not my kind of people. And then there was Tony Blair who tried to update their image and what did he do? Take us into an illegal and disasterous war against the will of the people.
You do realise that the Tories would have had us in that war twice as quickly don't you.

84 Labour MPs voted against, and 69 abstained. 2 and 17 were the equivalent for the Tories.
 








dsr-burnley

Well-known member
Aug 15, 2014
2,412
So essentially you want British people to pay millions of pounds to US Healthcare service for worse services. And that's your priority in life?
Are there any other healthcare systems apart from the UK and the USA? It seems to be a general assumption that there are no alternatives to the NHS, the system that used to be called the "envy of the world", other than the US model. Surely other countries, perhaps those in the beloved EU, have healthcare systems that we could investigate?
 


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