Yes they want power, but we don't know what they'd want to do with it.I thought they had been quite clear. They want a general election (hence the vote of no confidence).
Yes they want power, but we don't know what they'd want to do with it.I thought they had been quite clear. They want a general election (hence the vote of no confidence).
Has anyone agreed what would happen if a second referendum produced the same scores on the doors? EU playing hardball and all that?
Someone would be praying a remain win, just for an easy way out.
That would need to be factored into whatever the question put to the people would be. I imagine it would be a 2 part question along the lines of 1) Leave or Remain 2) If we are to Leave would you prefer (a) May's Deal (b) No deal.
None of them can be trusted to deliver what we voted for. It's a disgrace, and everyone is now bored to hell with it.
It should be like a 2 leg Euro fixture, the result of the first referendum being carried over.
It should be like a 2 leg Euro fixture, the result of the first referendum being carried over.
I'm also struggling to see the alternatives. She might just play brinkmanship with house and repeat the vote again, leaving it so late that there's the threat of 'no deal' is she loses. But I don't believe the MPs will fall for it. She'd lose the vote again, and then she'll be faced with no deal or come up with an alternative, and surely at that point she'll have to come up with an alternative (referendum or election).If she is (like parliament seemingly are) dead set against no deal. And a compromise can't be agreed with both parliament/the EU. I fail to see what other options she will have other than a second referendum or quittng.
I'm also struggling to see the alternatives. She might just play brinkmanship with house and repeat the vote again, leaving it so late that there's the threat of 'no deal' is she loses. But I don't believe the MPs will fall for it. She'd lose the vote again, and then she'll be faced with no deal or come up with an alternative, and surely at that point she'll have to come up with an alternative (referendum or election).
None of that has any basis in fact, it's all supposition because you don't like Labour. Meanwhile, we've had 10 years of evidence that this conservative government have been absolutely DIRE.Shambolic ruling only matched by the opposition - a party also at odds on Europe internally, with a pro-Brexit leader who's pretending not to be for the time being. If we get rid of our current crap party for decades you'll see just how far Britain can fall.
None of that has any basis in fact, it's all supposition because you don't like Labour. Meanwhile, we've had 10 years of evidence that this conservative government have been absolutely DIRE.
None of them can be trusted to deliver what we voted for. It's a disgrace.
No, it is a fact that Corbyn is anti-EU, and against his party on the issue.None of that has any basis in fact
The main problems we have now are due to the fact that our MPs are against the result of the referendum. You just blame everything on the Tories because you don't like them.it's all supposition because you don't like Labour. Meanwhile, we've had 10 years of evidence that this conservative government have been absolutely DIRE.
No, it is a fact that Corbyn is anti-EU, and against his party on the issue.
The main problems we have now are due to the fact that our MPs are against the result of the referendum. You just blame everything on the Tories because you don't like them.
On balance, I agree with this.No, it is a fact that Corbyn is anti-EU, and against his party on the issue.
Complete drivel, and you're only saying it because that's how I responded to your assertion that Labour were somehow worse than this dreadful government. I blame the Tories because, er, they're in government. To clarify, we've had proof of Tory incompetence for several years now whereas Labour haven't been in power for years. So you saying Labour are worse is mere supposition, whereas I just cannot believe ANY government could be any worse than this one. They're useless.You just blame everything on the Tories because you don't like them.
It isn't, the MPs simply don't want us to leave.It's a bit disingenuous to say that are against the result of the referendum.
Yes I know, but then none of them can get us a better deal, so it's the same thing.They are against the deal that has been negotiated and also against letting us leave without a deal because of the consequences.
Sure, but you're kidding yourselves if you think this would be better under Labour.And it's easy to blame the Tories here considering they are in government.
Sure, but no one is capable of agreeing a deal which is decent and in the nation's interest, which is one of the main arguments of the remainers.This needn't be the major problem you are making out. I maintain that our MPs would vote for a Brexit deal if it was even half-way decent as to be considered in the nation's interest.
Eh? It doesn't matter what choices of MP I was given, the fact is that the current group of MPs were elected and they're mostly anti-Brexit.Clearly, it isn't in their view, and it's not as if you didn't have the chance to vote for an MP who was an advocate of a no-deal Brexit - after all we had a GE shortly after the referendum.
And you suggesting Labour would be better is also supposition. When did you last vote Tory?Complete drivel, and you're only saying it because that's how I responded to your assertion that Labour were somehow worse than this dreadful government. I blame the Tories because, er, they're in government. To clarify, we've had proof of Tory incompetence for several years now whereas Labour haven't been in power for years. So you saying Labour are worse is mere supposition, whereas I just cannot believe ANY government could be any worse than this one. They're useless.
Sure, but you said that the Brexiteers didn't take the chance - they didn't have the chance, the MPs in parliament are mostly remainers.
Only a died in the wool Tory would consider that they could be any worse than the incompetent tossers we currently have "running" the country. I'm not saying this lightly, but I honestly believe a cabinet made up of Corbyn, O'Donnell and Abbot would do no worse than May, Gove and Grayling - and they wouldn't be so arrogant in office as to treat the opposition with complete contempt until it's too late either.
That's right, they were elected. Had their positions on Brexit been considered an issue by the electorate, they wouldn't have voted for them.Eh? It doesn't matter what choices of MP I was given, the fact is that the current group of MPs were elected and they're mostly anti-Brexit.
I didn't suggest Labour, I said they wouldn't do any worse. Or more accurately I'm taking issue with anyone who, when the Tories are accused of incompetence or worse, says "yeah but Labour would be worse" because I doubt that somehow seeing as this is probably the worst government I can remember. As for my voting, you're right - I've never voted Tory but would vote for Ken Clarke at a stroke. I even used to live a mile from his constituency as a student and would have done the same then if the boundaries had taken me in. Furthermore, I've only voted Labour once or twice (in the 90s, pre-Iraq).And you suggesting Labour would be better is also supposition. When did you last vote Tory?
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