Leekbrookgull
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It is either Gerrard or Lampard. NOT BOTH ! 
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Tonight proves what we all know ?
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Withdean Wanderer
Banned
No.
It proved it's LAMPARD, not Gerrard!
It proved it's LAMPARD, not Gerrard!
Nemesis
SERIOUSLY!
Well there's a surprise-our resident football expert prefers anybody to Gerrard. Predictably boring response.
nwgull
Well-known member
I think Gerrard is the better player but Lampard gives me the impression that playing for England means something to him.
Withdean Wanderer
Banned
Well gerrard has played like an utter **** for the past 7 years.
We've won 4-1 tonight without him, Fat frank has had a STORMER, wheras "Stevie G" is probably saving himself for Sunday. What does that tell you?
Oh, and if i've given a predictably boring response, then what the hell have you given, latching on to a post from me about Gerrard for the 100th time.
Sad, clueless, idiot.
NMH
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Not one Liverpool player in the England squad.
After Carragher's 'confessional', perhaps that's one reason we did so well.
After Carragher's 'confessional', perhaps that's one reason we did so well.
Cecil
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Spot on....
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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I agree they can't play together but before Gerrard gets totally slagged off I would have been happy to see him come on instead of Jenas to hold the left side for the last 15-20 minutes.
A bench with the likes of Gary Neville, Owen, Beckham, Gerrard and Crouch would worry any manager in world football, so don't write them off just yet.
A bench with the likes of Gary Neville, Owen, Beckham, Gerrard and Crouch would worry any manager in world football, so don't write them off just yet.
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It proves McClaren was a f***ing NAUSE of the highest order
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Three HUGE factors from tonight:
1. Lampard cannot play with Gerrard, and vice-versa (we've known for 5 years, but hopefully the penny will have dropped with Capello)
2. Beckham is history. Pace on the flanks is the future (again, some have been calling for this for several years - tonight proved it beyond any doubt).
3. Get 1 and 2 right, and you've already solved 90% of Englands problems before you even consider who plays up front.
1. Lampard cannot play with Gerrard, and vice-versa (we've known for 5 years, but hopefully the penny will have dropped with Capello)
2. Beckham is history. Pace on the flanks is the future (again, some have been calling for this for several years - tonight proved it beyond any doubt).
3. Get 1 and 2 right, and you've already solved 90% of Englands problems before you even consider who plays up front.
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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Easy, you're very hard on Becks. The recent stats show he still makes a large proportion of England's goals and his crossing is still pretty good.
More importantly, do you think that in a World Cup a 21-year old Walcott with his build is capable of playing full pelt for 7 matches in 4 weeks? I suspect Walcott is not the sort of player like Lampard who is capable of playing 90 minutes of every match in a tournament, in which case we still need a wide man who can pick out a cross or pass and not panic.
I need to see more from SWP and Bentley before I write Becks off just yet, but I totally agree that his days as a starter are over. The Czech match confirmed that.
More importantly, do you think that in a World Cup a 21-year old Walcott with his build is capable of playing full pelt for 7 matches in 4 weeks? I suspect Walcott is not the sort of player like Lampard who is capable of playing 90 minutes of every match in a tournament, in which case we still need a wide man who can pick out a cross or pass and not panic.
I need to see more from SWP and Bentley before I write Becks off just yet, but I totally agree that his days as a starter are over. The Czech match confirmed that.
pasty
A different kind of pasty
Absolutely bloody spot on Mr 10.
I don't have much of a preference over the Lampard / Gerrard thing, but certainly not both in the same side, especially as we now have either Barry or Hargreaves in the middle with either one of them.
As for Beckham, as much as I have admired him in the past, his best days are long behnd him. Time to go I'm afraid.
Also, as much as I hate to admit it, I'm not sure Michael Owen will be seen in an England shirt too often now either. Great player, but too prone to injury now for a long term future.
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Becks is only useful when the game stops. That, I think, is indisputable FACT.
We scored four goals from open play tonight. FOUR.
I appreciate three of those were against 10 men, but we were already causing them lots of problems of the kind we've not seen when its been Beckham plodding around the halfway line on the right.
Walcott did the business tonight. I would also happily have SWP as backup.
ANYTHING. BUT. BECKHAM.
British Bulldog
The great escape
- Feb 6, 2006
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Quality players in they're day but all past they're best, any international manager worth they're weight in salt knows how to nullify them
Withdean Wanderer
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To be fair, it is quite easy to argue Walcott did NOTHING against a pathetic Andorra side, and SWP has been pretty much USELESS in his entire England career.
beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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oh do f*** off. is it so difficult to grasp the concept of Gerrard or Lampard? that we need both so we can play either when the other is out? have you never noticed how Lampard is one of the first heads to drop when England are behind, while Gerrard will motor around (often to his detriment). Gerrard was injured and i dont want us to be playing less than 100% fit players anywhere no matter how good they are. the result against 10 men would have been the same with either player.
Zesh Rehman
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Agree with Withdean W, play fat frank and f*** Gerrard the scouse car nicking prick
pasty
A different kind of pasty
Is the correct answer.