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Tomorrow,s world cup vote.



peterward

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Before his untimely death we were already told who will win.

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andywhing4england

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Who are our main contenders again? I honestly don't think there is another country in the world better prepared for a World Cup than we are. Are we going to perhaps be overlooked due to being too perfect? I cannot think of a single thing that would be bad about us hosting it. Apart from MK being a stadium and not ours?!?!?!
 


peterward

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Who are our main contenders again? I honestly don't think there is another country in the world better prepared for a World Cup than we are. Are we going to perhaps be overlooked due to being too perfect? I cannot think of a single thing that would be bad about us hosting it. Apart from MK being a stadium and not ours?!?!?!

1) England
2) Russia
3) Spain/Portugal
4) Holland/Belgium
 


GregX

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Sepp wants a legacy, so England and the US will get jobbed. Russia and Qatar will get it, then he can say he brought the WC to Africa, Asia, Russia and the Middle East. Then God willing he will piss off and die somewhere.
 


tonymgc

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I have a gut feeling Spain & Portugal will make a late surge & sneak it.
Putin not showing up seems to be an indication the Ruskies wont get it & as much as Cameron, Prince William & Becks might be campaigning & pushing for votes i don't know how this will make much difference.

I also find it bizarre that the BBC a state funded tv company would go out of its way to sabotage a state funded world cup bid with that Panorama programme. Fair enough air it once its in the bag but why the same week as the decision is made.
 




highway61

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Watching the Beckham piece earlier I did think he did pretty good, given that he not see by any means as a great orator.
 


El Presidente

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England's chances of winning the bid are the same as they have for winning the World Cup every four years. Deep in our hearts we know it isn't going to happen, but in the build up to the event hearts start to rule heads and we say 'got to be in with a chance' and then we get knocked out in the second round.
 






itszamora

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Sep 21, 2003
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Russia getting it would be a disgrace bearing in mind the appalling racism still present in that country. On a lesser scale, one can say the same about Spain/Portugal. I don't think we'll get it, but then again I didn't think we'd get the Olympics.
 


Sheebo

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1) England
2) Russia
3) Spain/Portugal
4) Holland/Belgium

Your spot on - the 'English' media scum have been our biggest contender. Completely mindless.
 


Bozza

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There's been a big swing in the betting with England favourites on most books now...

England - evens-ish
Russia - 11/8-13/8
Portugal & Spain - 4/1ish
Belgium and Holland - 40/1
 




Sheebo

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There's been a big swing in the betting with England favourites on most books now...

England - evens-ish
Russia - 11/8-13/8
Portugal & Spain - 4/1ish
Belgium and Holland - 40/1

I REALLY hope this is right...

I have heard that cos Putin hasn't bothered to fly to Zurich it's a sign Russia have thrown the towel in - not sure if that's us reading too much in to it - hope it's true!
 


Bozza

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I hadn't really followed the vote other than the obvious talk about the Sunday Times and Panorama binfests but having listened to 5Live whilst I was cooking dinner, including an excellent piece with Beckham, I really, really hope we get this.

It doesn't seem right that Spain (with Portugal this time) and the USA (possibles for 2022) should have the World Cup again before we do, given their relatively recent hosting.
 


Sheebo

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Agreed. The voting is odd isn't it - 1 out each round. I think we'll be in final 2 - just HOPE we get this of course like everyone should IMO. However corupt FIFA are I don't care at the mo as long as we get the WC - Then deal with the corruption.
 




Bozza

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David Davis was on 5Live talking about England's last failed bid. He said Jack Warner told England his votes would go to England in the first round but he'd only stick with England if they got 6 or more votes in the first round. As it was we got 5 votes so we lost those votes and were then eliminated. He suspects Warner would have make a similar pledge to England this time round.

It's curious though - why would you vote for a country in one round but then move your vote from them in the next if they are still in? I can only assume that you have decided they won't win, so want your vote to be going to the winners for whatever reason - "I backed you when you won, now scratch my back please" etc.

Beckham spoke warmly about Warner, saying he had kept a promise a few years back to re-visit Trindad and Tobago to run soccer schools.

Davis said he has calculated his view on who will vote for who, including some "owe us a favour" things he knows about and thinks we will do it, which seems to be an upgrade from his earlier thinking.
 


Sheebo

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David Davis was on 5Live talking about England's last failed bid. He said Jack Warner told England his votes would go to England in the first round but he'd only stick with England if they got 6 or more votes in the first round. As it was we got 5 votes so we lost those votes and were then eliminated. He suspects Warner would have make a similar pledge to England this time round.

It's curious though - why would you vote for a country in one round but then move your vote from them in the next if they are still in? I can only assume that you have decided they won't win, so want your vote to be going to the winners for whatever reason - "I backed you when you won, now scratch my back please" etc.

Beckham spoke warmly about Warner, saying he had kept a promise a few years back to re-visit Trindad and Tobago to run soccer schools.

Davis said he has calculated his view on who will vote for who, including some "owe us a favour" things he knows about and thinks we will do it, which seems to be an upgrade from his earlier thinking.

So let's get this straight, ALL 22 vote EVERY round. So hence if say 1 country got 12 / 1 got 8 / one got 2 / one got 0 in the first round. Assuming the origianl 12 stuck with that country through all the rounds (as you'd expect them to?) that country would win. So the 1st round of voting could pretty much say who would win...? In my example then only the 2 voters for the 3rd country would be forced to change there votes in the last round as their original country would have been eliminated...

Does that make sense to you?
 


Bozza

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I think in your scenario, voting ends after round 1 as a majority has been achieved. If a majority has not been achieved the country with the lowest vote count is eliminated and everyone votes again for the remaining country until such time as a majority is achieved. In the event of a tie, ie 11-11 with 2 countries left, Blatter casts the deciding vote.
 


HAILSHAM SEAGULL

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I thought I read somewhere there were 23 voters
 




Kuipers Supporters Club

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So let's get this straight, ALL 22 vote EVERY round. So hence if say 1 country got 12 / 1 got 8 / one got 2 / one got 0 in the first round. Assuming the origianl 12 stuck with that country through all the rounds (as you'd expect them to?) that country would win. So the 1st round of voting could pretty much say who would win...? In my example then only the 2 voters for the 3rd country would be forced to change there votes in the last round as their original country would have been eliminated...

Does that make sense to you?

Go to World Soccer's website.

IF, and it's a HUGE IF we get through the first round, we could just pull this off.

Here's hoping
 




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