Quite shocking really. Oh well. No educating some.
Same people probably had Thatcher down as a great leader as well
Not worth the breath is it
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Quite shocking really. Oh well. No educating some.
Same people probably had Thatcher down as a great leader as well
Not worth the breath is it
franks brother
Well-known member
Don't worry, they'll try to prrivatise the air next.
Twats, twatted! Now f*** off back under a stone, Mr Cameron
Twats, twatted! Now f*** off back under a stone, Mr Cameron
beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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Alex Alex Dawson oo! oo!
Primary data is fact
Strange the Dept of Environment didn't run this past the National Trust, Woodland Trust etc before coming up publicly with an idea that they could or would even like to manage these forests. Then again, perhaps beorhthelm and some of Spelman's civil servants are on the button after all.
Tony Meolas Loan Spell
Slut Faced Whores
If only the Labour party cold govern us forever, they're the best. One party state, that’s what I want.
Anyone who disagrees with the Labour party point of view is uneducated or just bloody well wrong.
Go Labour.
This
At least they changed their mind regardless of what actually made them do it. Did public pressure make Labour change their mind on an illegal war or make them reverse their treachery on promising a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty ?
Strange how when Labour DON'T change their mind they are slated for not bowing to public pressure, the Tories change their mind and they are slated to. Make up your bloody minds !
beorhthelm
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ah yes, the woodland trust. they want to encourage you to plant trees, to save woodlands, to change woods from pine to deciduous... but they dont want actually manage anything, that would be a terrible imposition
Mammoth
Kickin' back
I don't see there being a problem with discussing selling off some areas, after all a lot of the FC managed land is effectively an agri-industrial area and we don't have a right to roam in it anyway. On balance I feel happier maintaining the status quo for a while, so good decision by the govt for making this u turn.
Don't think the will of the people was that important over the Iraq war tho- can you honestly say we would have sat it out had the Tories been in charge at the time?
Pot noodles for everyone
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Just need Glasfryn and I've got a full house on this week's left-wing bullshit bingo. As soon as I saw the thread I picked my 3 random witless lefties: Glasfryn, Dougal and Biscuit. My bonus ball for guessing which post that Thatcher first gets mentioned was 18 so only 3 out there too.
Come on Glasfryn! Don't let me down now.
Come on Glasfryn! Don't let me down now.
Dandyman
In London village.
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If only the Labour party cold govern us forever, they're the best. One party state, that’s what I want.
Anyone who disagrees with the Labour party point of view is uneducated or just bloody well wrong.
Go Labour.
For the record, I voted Green at the last General Election and have not voted Labour at the national level since Iraq.
Kalimantan Gull
Well-known member
I don't want to sell off the forest. People will only turn it into chairs and pool cues. Glad to hear they're not.
PS. If you need a job, move to east Asia. bloody well booming over here.
PS. If you need a job, move to east Asia. bloody well booming over here.
Alex Alex Dawson oo! oo!
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They haven't changed their mind if preservation of the status quo was always the end game.
Leekbrookgull
Well-known member
Once he has worked out his policies,do me a favour.
LibDems table a proposition to sell off forests, the people don't like it, so they say sorry we got it wrong and cease it. All sounds like good politics to me to be fair. Not really worth the news inches its being given now. Lets move on to the next issue.
In which case they are the joke - albeit a very sad one
Well Cameron was in office for nearly 4 years before he came up with any substantial policies. Quite frankly, I expect the same from Labour.
Why they can't put their cards on table in the first place is above me...
Rowdey
Well-known member
you dont need to be clever to take 10-20 minutes to familise with the whole picture, rather than absorb the united Telegraph/Guardian (never thought i'd see that) slant that a bogey man (or "any passing spiv") is going to tear down every tree in the nation as a result of this.
A very good friend of mine was heading up this managed sell off, and was the one on Brekkie TV etc.
He's a got a first class honors degree in Forestry, loves working in 'in the field' and is a right tree hugger at heart, but realizes managed investment is a good thing.
There is no way he would do that job if it was sold off to every 'passing spiv'
beorhthelm speaks wisely you know.
beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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that for me is what annoys me, not the issue but the coverage given to it. its being hled up as some massive popular protest turning the governement. what i've seen is the media have an opinion on the issue without giving an informed view of the issue. people were petitioning against the proposals before they were published
this whole issue is over 18% of English forests, mostly commercial pine planations, portrayed by the broadsheets as if the entire woodland of the nation was about to be cut down and replaced by golf courses, wind farms and housing. its the same type of people against this who campaigned against Falmer.
i'd be far more impressed if the papers presented a united front on an issue that matters, like say poverty, welfare reform, education, health. but they'd rather gravitate around the issue whether or not a f***ing copse in Shropshire will be owned by the government or a private landowners, the latter of which own the other 82%.
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clapham_gull
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- Aug 20, 2003
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Strange, it the issue was so unimportant why did they bother looking into in the first place ?
Irrespective of the pros and cons, the public backlash is very much an ideological issue and goes beyong the selling off of a few forest.
If this government thinks that anything is up for grabs it needs to think again. Middle England disagrees with that now and even the CPRE were up in arms.
Irrespective of the pros and cons, the public backlash is very much an ideological issue and goes beyong the selling off of a few forest.
If this government thinks that anything is up for grabs it needs to think again. Middle England disagrees with that now and even the CPRE were up in arms.
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