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Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
62,180
Location Location
Next door to Scizzor Sisters apparently.
Blimey, I have my hair cut there sometimes.
 








Chicken Run

Member Since Jul 2003
NSC Patron
Jul 17, 2003
19,488
Valley of Hangleton
One of the sites must be in Boundary Road Portslade, southern end next door to Kwik Fit as the area is now besieged by press and TV crews, also a Helo above with a cam.
 


seagullwedgee

Well-known member
Aug 9, 2005
3,016
who was that wakner on sky news trying to get in the picture on his moblie..... "can yo see me now, can you see me now, what about now, what about now?"
 






Danny-Boy

Banned
Apr 21, 2009
5,579
The Coast
embargoe's lifted early - police digging at sites in Brighton and Portslade as part of hunt for more victims of serial killer Peter Tobin

Bugger - beaten to it

Perhaps I should claim that he used to have my allotment....as long as they left the fruit bushes alone, that is.
 






mcshane in the 79th

New member
Nov 4, 2005
10,485
from the guardian:

Police investigating the background of serial killer Peter Tobin today began searching the back gardens of two properties in Brighton.

Specialist search teams are using ground-penetrating radar at addresses where the triple-murderer lived in the 1980s to see if there is evidence of any further victims – an inquiry dubbed Operation Anagram.

The gardens at the two addresses – 67 Station Road, Portslade and 152 Marine Parade, Brighton – were being searched simultaneously. The garden being searched in Portslade is behind two hair salons. Tobin is believed to have run a cafe in the shop which is now Essential Hair and Beauty, and lived in the flat upstairs.

Sharron Barlow, who runs the Scizzor Sisters barber's shop next door, said she had only been there for about five years but was aware of the serial killer's links to the property.

"I turned up this morning and the police were waiting to talk to me," she said. "We've all read the story. I expected this a couple of years ago, but today was a bit of a surprise."

Police refused to confirm or deny if the searches were linked to the deaths of schoolgirls Karen Hadaway, 10, and Nicola Fellows, nine, in October 1986. They were found strangled in Wild Park, Brighton in a case known as the Babes in the Woods killings.

"We are not prepared to divulge the nature of the information which has led to the gardens of these properties being searched and it would be inappropriate and insensitive to be drawn into speculation about missing individuals," Sussex police said in a statement.

Detective chief inspector Nick Sloan, of Sussex police's major crime unit, said officers had to wait for the two trials to finish before they could start further searches and that police must "satisfy themselves" that no crimes were committed at either property.

"As long as there are lines of inquiry, we will continue," Sloan told a press conference. "We have to consider the families of those who may have been one of his victims and it is imperative that they find closure. We will strive to achieve this."

Tobin lived in Brighton for 20 years from the late 1960s, including in an eight-bedroom house with a patio garden in Dyke Road. Police said although several other addresses in Brighton were linked to Tobin they would not be searched.

Police have vowed to leave "no stone unturned" as they investigate his past. Tobin lived in several towns and cities, including Glasgow, Brighton, East Sussex, Margate, Kent, and Havant, Hampshire. Under Operation Anagram, which started in September 2007, all 43 police forces in England and Wales were asked to conduct background enquiries to identify any potential victims by examining outstanding missing persons, abductions and rapes, and cross-referencing them with Tobin's chronology.

Tobin, 63, was told last December he would die in jail after he was convicted of strangling 18-year-old Dinah McNicol. The former church handyman was already serving life terms for the murders of 15-year-old Vicky Hamilton and Angelika Kluk, 23.
Last week, a woman who believed she may have been attacked by Tobin almost 40 years ago spoke about her ordeal.

Appearing on the BBC's Crimewatch programme, the unidentified woman claimed Tobin put something in her drink before assaulting her in a Glasgow tenement in 1968. Tobin, who is said to have once boasted of killing 48 women, has been linked to 15 unsolved murders. Detective Superintendent David Swindle of Strathclyde police, who led the investigation into Tobin, admitted last year that the serial killer could take his secrets to the grave.

Tobin was already serving sentences for the murders of two women before being convicted of McNicol's murder. Her body was discovered bound and gagged, wrapped in 16 heavy-duty refuse bags and buried under concrete in the garden of Tobin's former home in Margate, Kent.

A few metres away, cut in two and also wrapped in bin bags, was the corpse of Vicky Hamilton, 15, whom Tobin had abducted, raped and murdered in Bathgate, West Lothian, in February 1991.

Tobin has also been convicted of the murder of Kluk, a Polish student he killed in September 2006, dumping her body under the floor of a Glasgow church.
It was his arrest in connection with Kluk's murder in 2006 and the discovery that he had moved around the country using alibis that prompted all forces to re-examine cold cases.
 


strings

Moving further North...
Feb 19, 2006
9,969
Barnsley
If the police dig up your garden, do you have to claim off your own insurance to get the property returned to its' former state, or do the Police have some kind of insurance/fund for this? I know it isn't really an important question in the grand scheme of these things, but it is something I always wonder about. Do the Police just leave a great massive hole in your garden?
 
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Danny-Boy

Banned
Apr 21, 2009
5,579
The Coast
Wasn''t that from an episode of Porridge - Fletch got the law to dig over his potatoes by telling them he'd hidden stuff there.

I'd forgotten that, at least consciously..on another chatline I mentioned the career of ex-Palace player Rachid Harkouk, who with Barry Silkman (now a player's agent) was once convicted of passing forged currency, either US dollars or travellers' cheques.

It seems that the pair acquired them after contacts made during a match with a Prison XI - that seems to bring back memories of "Porridge - The Movie"...

Harkouk went on, whilst playing for Notts County, to star in the Algeria team at the 1986 World Cup.
 




surrey jim

Not in Surrey
Aug 2, 2005
18,158
Bevendean
The Guardian; said:
Police refused to confirm or deny if the searches were linked to the deaths of schoolgirls Karen Hadaway, 10, and Nicola Fellows, nine, in October 1986. They were found strangled in Wild Park, Brighton in a case known as the Babes in the Woods killings:

Thought Russell Bishop was convicted for this
 




If the police dig up your garden, do you have to claim off your own insurance to get the property returned to its' former state, or do the Police have some kind of insurance/fund for this? I know it isn't really an important question in the grand scheme of these things, but it is something I always wonder about. Do the Police just leave a great massive hole in your garden?
Can you volunteer to have the police come round and dig over the garden?

What's the correct procedure to achieve this?
 


Acker79

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Nov 15, 2008
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Brighton
Thought Russell Bishop was convicted for this

No, he was cleared of those charges. He was found guilty of abduction, molestation and attempted murder of a seven-year-old girl from whitehawk. There is a question of if Tobin was involved, back when he was convicted there were investigations into the various places he lived. Though that is only in the media, police have ruled out his involvement in the babes in the wood murders.
 


Gerbil

Nsc's most loved
Jul 6, 2003
6,257
Stalking Hayley
On sky news NOW

They're digging up a house in portslade!
 
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