[Albion] The Potter in/out thread

[TomandJerry]

So?

All that means is people are putting money on him, not that he's about to be holding up the shirt (again). FFS someone's had a nibble at Pimienta, whose senior coaching career consists of two seasons at Las Palmas with a 39% win rate.

The bookies must be loving it

 

[Garyoldfan]

Ok. Can you then provide one for him that covers:
1. Not winning a football game at home for a YEAR is boring and leaves fans frustrated
2. Continuously passing around and not scoring doesn't win games
3. Winning the XG game doesn't result in points
4. Making disparaging remarks to the press about the fans isn't going to win them over
5. How leaving with the entire coaching staff for a bigger bag of gold after 7 games into the season, is not a good thing
6. How being a Brighton manager is the easy life.

And any other relevant points.

If you could start a thread on it and then others can contribute, it'll make sure it's a thorough one.

1) yeah that’s an issue but he set up everything for RDZ
2) RDZ did exactly the same
3) Don’t care or understand xg nonsense
4) he didn’t though did he ?
5) he’s ambitious. Every other manager would have done the same, the coaching staff weren’t forced to go
6) taken out of context because you’re bitter

How about that ?

 

[B-right-on]

Ali McCoist is spot on. Potter back would be very divisive for the fans and that's why I don't think that he's on the list. It's just media and bookies BS.

Brendan Rogers anyone? Erm no thanks Jeff.

 

[LamieRobertson]

So?

All that means is people are putting money on him, not that he's about to be holding up the shirt (again). FFS someone's had a nibble at Pimienta, whose senior coaching career consists of two seasons at Las Palmas with a 39% win rate.

Sorry ….finger slipped …was meant to be Pardew

 

[B-right-on]

1) yeah that’s an issue but he set up everything for RDZ
2) RDZ did exactly the same
3) Don’t care or understand xg nonsense
4) he didn’t though did he ?
5) he’s ambitious. Every other manager would have done the same, the coaching staff weren’t forced to go
6) taken out of context because you’re bitter

How about that ?

Lol, don't give up the day job and become a History teacher.

 

[dazzer6666]

Scenario 1 - GP doesn’t come back. Localised bedwetting ends. Pre / next season underway. Life goes on with the usual match day moaning on NSC.
Scenario 2- TB & PB reappoint GP. Outraged NSC’ers give up ST’s. ST’s purchased by those on waiting list. Pre / next season underway. Life goes on with the usual match day moaning on NSC.

Some things will never change.

Bet none of those saying they’ll give up their STs actually will anyway

 

[dippy2449]

1) yeah that’s an issue but he set up everything for RDZ
2) RDZ did exactly the same
3) Don’t care or understand xg nonsense
4) he didn’t though did he ?
5) he’s ambitious. Every other manager would have done the same, the coaching staff weren’t forced to go
6) taken out of context because you’re bitter

How about that ?

5) he’s ambitious. Every other manager would have done the same, the coaching staff weren’t forced to go

GP would not have gone unless he had agreement of his staff, so they jumped with him.

 

[Gully Forever]

And we had a much stronger squad when he was here. These are most of the players brought in when he was here.

Leandro Trossard
Neal Maupay
Aaron Mooy
Tariq Lamptey
Joël Veltman
Jan Paul van Hecke
Andi Zeqiri
Adam Lallana
Jakub Moder
Danny Welbeck
Moisés Caicedo
Enock Mwepu
Kaoru Mitoma
Marc Cucurella
Deniz Undav
Simon Adingra
Julio Enciso
Levi Colwill Loan
Pervis Estupiñán
Billy Gilmour

OH, and alexis mac allister

Compared to the players brought in for Roberto de Zerbi

Facundo Buonanotte
Yasin Ayari
João Pedro
Mahmoud Dahoud
James Milner
Bart Verbruggen
Igor
Carlos Baleba
Ansu Fati loan
Adrian Mazilu
Valentín Barco

 

[Garyoldfan]

5) he’s ambitious. Every other manager would have done the same, the coaching staff weren’t forced to go

GP would not have gone unless he had agreement of his staff, so they jumped with him.

So they’re all to blame. They’re weren’t kidnapped and paid enough money so they don’t have to ever work again then ?

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

Absolutely agree. It was always blown out of proportion anyway and, looking at what he actually said, I don't see much wrong with it. For starters, he never said "the fans needs a history lesson", he said "maybe I need a history lesson". A subtle difference, but an important one that's been lost over the years:

"The fans are entitled to their opinions but I disagree with them. You have to understand the game, who we played and what we did. We are sitting eighth in the Premier League, but maybe I need a history lesson on the club. We continue to play with the same level of courage and bravery going forward but for today we have to take a point and the clean sheet."

It's a throwaway comment after a frustrating match. I don't think for one moment that people would still be banging on about it 4 years later.

Same with the 'easy life' comment. An off the cuff remark to deflect a tedious barrage of toxic reporters post match, and one I'm sure he regrets. Blown out of all proportion on here.

 

[twickers]

Being objective, Potter gave RDZ a brilliant foundation to work with. We didn't really want Potter to go, until he left us, and he's now learnt some experience managing big players in big clubs. He chooses good coaching staff and tactically isn't a million miles from how we like to see the team play.

His comment about the history lesson hasn't aged well, it was a mistake to say it at the time. He seemed to learn a bit about humility at Chelsea, not sure he had a choice. Would many fans forgive him? If he got us back in Europe yes.

He's a devil we know and potentially a better devil than other choices, he has PL experience and 'if' he wanted to come back he'd be doing so to prove a point...the performance we'd get from that point is no bad thing, he'd want to succeed.

 

[dippy2449]

Being objective, Potter gave RDZ a brilliant foundation to work with. We didn't really want Potter to go, until he left us, and he's now learnt some experience managing big players in big clubs. He chooses good coaching staff and tactically isn't a million miles from how we like to see the team play.

His comment about the history lesson hasn't aged well, it was a mistake to say it at the time. He seemed to learn a bit about humility at Chelsea, not sure he had a choice. Would many fans forgive him? If he got us back in Europe yes.

He's a devil we know and potentially a better devil than other choices, he has PL experience and 'if' he wanted to come back he'd be doing so to prove a point...the performance we'd get from that point is no bad thing, he'd want to succeed.

The same happened to Roy Hodgson when he said the Palarse fans had been spoilt.
He was right!! Both Palarse and Albion fans are being spoilt in comparison to our historical highs and lows.
Sometimes it is good to just stand back and look at what you have rather than taking everything for granted and quibbling over what you think you deserve!!

 

[Muhammed - I’m hard - Bruce Lee]

Bet none of those saying they’ll give up their STs actually will anyway

I wouldn't give mine up but I would list it every week on the exchange until he goes.
I don't want that snake anywhere near the club again

 

[prawnsarnies]

Can't forget when he left he said if he wanted an easy life he would have stayed at Brighton, obviously didn't give us 100%, I trust in our recruitment that we won't go back.

 

[dejavuatbtn]

Cant see it happening. I just cant see Tony turning to a man that so quickly jumped ship, after all the patience we'd had with him. Also, Tony will be very aware that even though GP is a decent enough quality manager for us, there will be a section of the support that would feel uneasy about his return, and after the first bit of poor form that section of support and the resulting negative press will get very loud. I just cant see it happening, it has the potential for a volatile situation if he came in and didnt immediately get results.

But what if it’s not just players that are being developed and moved on at profit - why not managers as well? Who knows what TB had in mind appointing Potter and whether he was considered another money making project?

 

[TomandJerry]

Potter seen heading towards The Grand...

 

[Johnny RoastBeef]

Can't forget when he left he said if he wanted an easy life he would have stayed at Brighton, obviously didn't give us 100%, I trust in our recruitment that we won't go back.

another Potter quote taken out of context.

he was responding to a question regarding Chelsea's historical willingness to sack their manager after a minor run of poor form. He was asserting that at Brighton, Tony is less trigger happy and willing to let his manger ride out the rough patches without the threat of sacking.

 

[holybanjo]

The issue for me is that Potter (including the history lesson) was always saying how good he was just to keep us in the Prem, whereas RdZ wanted Europe and said we were good enough to beat any team (albeit with many "We are Brighton..." press conferences. I want to winner mentality again.

You forget Potter beat Arsenal in the Europa league with Ostersunds

 

[FloatLeft]

I wouldn't give mine up but I would list it every week on the exchange until he goes.
I don't want that snake anywhere near the club again

I’ll keep my ST but just not go to the games. The seats shall remain empty.

 

[One Love]

Think I'd prefer a manager that got angry with others not just the fans.