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Soulman

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Oct 22, 2012
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Because previously there was a sense that they had all the power to sweep it under the carpet, all the press, police, and courts in their pocket, and that no one would take them seriously, and now there appears to be a concerted effort to get justice for historical offences by similarly powerful and seemingly protected individuals they feel they will be listened to and believed and there is a chance for justice that wasn't there before?

Indeed.
This one wont be shut down, theres to many people behind it and too many independant body involved in the investigation from all 4 corners of the country however it will be dismembered, very stealthily and the right safe amount of news will be force fed to the public and nonses will continue to run our sometimes unelected offices in the highest points of power.

The Elm Grove VIP list:

Anthony Blunt: Royal connections, MI5
Harvey Proctor: Convicted paedophile.
Sir Peter Bottomley: Worthing MP and Monday Club
Charles Irving
Leon Britton: Lord, ex Thatcher Minister
Peter Brooke: Life Peer
John Rowe: MI5, former MP
Cyril Smith: Deceased, ex Rochdale MP
Ron Brown
Colin Jordan: Politician and author
George Tremlett: Former GLC Leader
Peter Campbell
Gary Walker: Sinn Fein
Cliff Richard: Pop Star, known at Elm Guest House as ‘Kitty’
Jess Conrad: ex Pop Star.
Ron Wells: Musician, aka ‘Gladys’ at Elm Guest House.
Richard Miles
Chris Denning: ex BBC DJ, convicted paedophile.
R Langley: Buckingham Palace equerry
Terry Dwyer
Patrick Puddles
Louis Minster: Head of Richmond Social Services
Colin Peters, QC: Convicted paedophile
Steve Everett: Senior Westminster Social worker
Ray Wire: "Expert" on paedophile therapy
Peter Glencross
Guy Hamilton Blackwell, son of Westland Helicopters Chairman

A list of a few sex offenders inside British Government:

Tory Party General election candidate, Michael Powell – Convicted and jailed for 3 years for downloading hardcore child porn.

Tory Party Liaison Manager on the London Assembly, Douglas Campbell, who’s job includes running the Tory GLA website. Arrested for allegedly downloading child porn. He is currently suspended while the Police investigation continues.

Labour Councillor (North Lincolnshire) David Spooner – Convicted and jailed for 1 year for masturbating in front of 2 young boys.

Tory Party Councillor (Folkestone – in Leader, Michael Howard’s constituency), Robert Richdale – 41 year history of crime, involving 30 convictions and 5 prison sentences. Richdales enormous criminal record, which covers 10 pages of A4 paper, includes convictions for assault, theft, causing death by dangerous driving, forgery, drugs offences, possession of an offensive weapon, and sex attacks against underage schoolgirls. The Tory Party election campaign literature described Richdale as “a family man” who had a “compassionate personality”

Tory Party Councillor (Wickbar/Bristol) Roger Talboys – Convicted and jailed for 6 years for multiple sex attacks on children.

Tory Party Councillor ( Stratford-upon-Avon ) Christopher Pilkington – Convicted of downloading hardcore child porn on his PC.

Labour Councillor (Newton Aycliffe) Martin Locklyn – Convicted and jailed for 15 years for sexually abusing 3 14-year-old boys.

Prominent Labour Party activist Mark Tann (who has met Tony & Cherie at Party functions) recently got a 15-year sentence for raping a 4-year old girl on 2 separate occasions.

.Tory Party MP (Billericay) Harvey Proctor – Stood trial for sex offences of a sado-masochistic nature against teenage boys.

Tory Party Mayor ( North Tyneside ), Chris Morgan – Forced to resign after being arrested twice in 2 weeks, for indecent assault on a 15-year old girl, and for suspicion of downloading child porn.

Labour Party activist and serial child-molester Mark Trotter, who died from AIDS before he could be convicted.

Labour Councillor (Manchester), George Harding – Charged with indecent assault on a girl of 12.

Tory Party councillor ( Coventry ), Peter Stidworthy – Charged with indecent assault of a 15-year old boy.

Tory Party Councillor (Folkestone – in Leader, Michael Howard’s constituency), Robert Richdale – 41 year history of crime,

Labour Mayor (Westhoughton/Lancashire) Nicholas Green – Convicted and jailed for 10 years for 3 rapes and 13 counts of indecent assault.

Labour Councillor (Manchester), George Harding – Charged with indecent assault on a girl of 12.

William Straw – Son of Labour Foreign Secretary, and former Home Secretary – Jack Straw, was cautioned by Police for drug dealing, amid a frantic Government attempt to cover up the matter and gag the media as to his identity. Jack Straw also has a brother who was convicted of a sex attack on a schoolgirl.

Homosexual mass murderer; Dennis Nielsen, who strangled and dismembered 16 young men in the 1980`s, was also a highly active member of Labour fringe groups such as the Anti-Nazi League, and the SWP. That’s when he wasn’t busy boiling peoples heads in a pot, or masturbating over the corpses of his victims.

Lib-Dem Council candidate (Tower Hamlets), Justin Sillman – Convicted and jailed for 2 years for sexual abuse of young boys.

Lib-Dem Councillor and Mayoral Candidate ( Sheffield ), Francis Butler- Prosecuted for indecent assault of a young boy.

Lib-Dem Councillor ( Stockport ) Neil Derbyshire – Sexually assaulted a 16-year old boy in a public toilet. He was caught with a plastic bag containing lubricant, plastic surgical gloves, a condom, and underpants.

Lib-Dem Councillor ( Preston ), Bill Chadwick – Charged with: Making an indecent photograph of a child, Incitement to rape, Incitement to murder, Incitement to kidnap, and Incitement to torture. Chadwick’s gay lover – Alan Valentine, is also a Lib-Dem councillor.

High Level Masons such as Chief Superintendent Gordon Angelsea and at least 12 of his colleagues were “let off the hook” for sexual abuse crimes on children (some of who are now dead) in the North Wales Paedophile Ring Cover-Up.

High Level Government Masons such as Lord McAlpine, ex aid to Margaret Thatcher, was accused by numerous children of sexual crimes in the North Wales Child Abuse Cover-Ups. He escaped public exposure by a specifically appointed Masonic Paedophile Judge,Lord Cullen who was appointed to the investigation and “100 year cover up” of Thomas Hamilton’s Mass Murder spree – were BOTH members of the same “boy’s club”.

Thomas Hamilton was the name of the Mass Murderer responsible for the Dunblane Massacre. He was a Freemason.Thomas Hamilton was granted a gun licence by his Masonic “brother” Inspector McMurdo, to a amass his arsenal of weapons, even although he was well known to be of “odd character” with paedophilic tendencies.
The two Liaison Officers assigned to the murder investigation of Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman were known to the British Police hierarchy as Paedophiles at least 3 months prior to the investigation, due to Operation Ore.

According to media reports, the names of 2 former Labour Cabinet Ministers said to be `Household names` appear on the `Operation Ore ` list of subscribers to hard-core child pornography. The same FBI investigation, which led to the arrest of rock star Pete Townshend.
 




martyn20

Unwell but still smiling
Aug 4, 2012
3,080
Burgess Hill
Indeed.
This one wont be shut down, theres to many people behind it and too many independant body involved in the investigation from all 4 corners of the country however it will be dismembered, very stealthily and the right safe amount of news will be force fed to the public and nonses will continue to run our sometimes unelected offices in the highest points of power.

The Elm Grove VIP list:

Anthony Blunt: Royal connections, MI5
Harvey Proctor: Convicted paedophile.
Sir Peter Bottomley: Worthing MP and Monday Club
Charles Irving
Leon Britton: Lord, ex Thatcher Minister
Peter Brooke: Life Peer
John Rowe: MI5, former MP
Cyril Smith: Deceased, ex Rochdale MP
Ron Brown
Colin Jordan: Politician and author
George Tremlett: Former GLC Leader
Peter Campbell
Gary Walker: Sinn Fein
Cliff Richard: Pop Star, known at Elm Guest House as ‘Kitty’
Jess Conrad: ex Pop Star.
Ron Wells: Musician, aka ‘Gladys’ at Elm Guest House.
Richard Miles
Chris Denning: ex BBC DJ, convicted paedophile.
R Langley: Buckingham Palace equerry
Terry Dwyer
Patrick Puddles
Louis Minster: Head of Richmond Social Services
Colin Peters, QC: Convicted paedophile
Steve Everett: Senior Westminster Social worker
Ray Wire: "Expert" on paedophile therapy
Peter Glencross
Guy Hamilton Blackwell, son of Westland Helicopters Chairman

A list of a few sex offenders inside British Government:

Tory Party General election candidate, Michael Powell – Convicted and jailed for 3 years for downloading hardcore child porn.

Tory Party Liaison Manager on the London Assembly, Douglas Campbell, who’s job includes running the Tory GLA website. Arrested for allegedly downloading child porn. He is currently suspended while the Police investigation continues.

Labour Councillor (North Lincolnshire) David Spooner – Convicted and jailed for 1 year for masturbating in front of 2 young boys.

Tory Party Councillor (Folkestone – in Leader, Michael Howard’s constituency), Robert Richdale – 41 year history of crime, involving 30 convictions and 5 prison sentences. Richdales enormous criminal record, which covers 10 pages of A4 paper, includes convictions for assault, theft, causing death by dangerous driving, forgery, drugs offences, possession of an offensive weapon, and sex attacks against underage schoolgirls. The Tory Party election campaign literature described Richdale as “a family man” who had a “compassionate personality”

Tory Party Councillor (Wickbar/Bristol) Roger Talboys – Convicted and jailed for 6 years for multiple sex attacks on children.

Tory Party Councillor ( Stratford-upon-Avon ) Christopher Pilkington – Convicted of downloading hardcore child porn on his PC.

Labour Councillor (Newton Aycliffe) Martin Locklyn – Convicted and jailed for 15 years for sexually abusing 3 14-year-old boys.

Prominent Labour Party activist Mark Tann (who has met Tony & Cherie at Party functions) recently got a 15-year sentence for raping a 4-year old girl on 2 separate occasions.

.Tory Party MP (Billericay) Harvey Proctor – Stood trial for sex offences of a sado-masochistic nature against teenage boys.

Tory Party Mayor ( North Tyneside ), Chris Morgan – Forced to resign after being arrested twice in 2 weeks, for indecent assault on a 15-year old girl, and for suspicion of downloading child porn.

Labour Party activist and serial child-molester Mark Trotter, who died from AIDS before he could be convicted.

Labour Councillor (Manchester), George Harding – Charged with indecent assault on a girl of 12.

Tory Party councillor ( Coventry ), Peter Stidworthy – Charged with indecent assault of a 15-year old boy.

Tory Party Councillor (Folkestone – in Leader, Michael Howard’s constituency), Robert Richdale – 41 year history of crime,

Labour Mayor (Westhoughton/Lancashire) Nicholas Green – Convicted and jailed for 10 years for 3 rapes and 13 counts of indecent assault.

Labour Councillor (Manchester), George Harding – Charged with indecent assault on a girl of 12.

William Straw – Son of Labour Foreign Secretary, and former Home Secretary – Jack Straw, was cautioned by Police for drug dealing, amid a frantic Government attempt to cover up the matter and gag the media as to his identity. Jack Straw also has a brother who was convicted of a sex attack on a schoolgirl.

Homosexual mass murderer; Dennis Nielsen, who strangled and dismembered 16 young men in the 1980`s, was also a highly active member of Labour fringe groups such as the Anti-Nazi League, and the SWP. That’s when he wasn’t busy boiling peoples heads in a pot, or masturbating over the corpses of his victims.

Lib-Dem Council candidate (Tower Hamlets), Justin Sillman – Convicted and jailed for 2 years for sexual abuse of young boys.

Lib-Dem Councillor and Mayoral Candidate ( Sheffield ), Francis Butler- Prosecuted for indecent assault of a young boy.

Lib-Dem Councillor ( Stockport ) Neil Derbyshire – Sexually assaulted a 16-year old boy in a public toilet. He was caught with a plastic bag containing lubricant, plastic surgical gloves, a condom, and underpants.

Lib-Dem Councillor ( Preston ), Bill Chadwick – Charged with: Making an indecent photograph of a child, Incitement to rape, Incitement to murder, Incitement to kidnap, and Incitement to torture. Chadwick’s gay lover – Alan Valentine, is also a Lib-Dem councillor.

High Level Masons such as Chief Superintendent Gordon Angelsea and at least 12 of his colleagues were “let off the hook” for sexual abuse crimes on children (some of who are now dead) in the North Wales Paedophile Ring Cover-Up.

High Level Government Masons such as Lord McAlpine, ex aid to Margaret Thatcher, was accused by numerous children of sexual crimes in the North Wales Child Abuse Cover-Ups. He escaped public exposure by a specifically appointed Masonic Paedophile Judge,Lord Cullen who was appointed to the investigation and “100 year cover up” of Thomas Hamilton’s Mass Murder spree – were BOTH members of the same “boy’s club”.

Thomas Hamilton was the name of the Mass Murderer responsible for the Dunblane Massacre. He was a Freemason.Thomas Hamilton was granted a gun licence by his Masonic “brother” Inspector McMurdo, to a amass his arsenal of weapons, even although he was well known to be of “odd character” with paedophilic tendencies.
The two Liaison Officers assigned to the murder investigation of Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman were known to the British Police hierarchy as Paedophiles at least 3 months prior to the investigation, due to Operation Ore.

According to media reports, the names of 2 former Labour Cabinet Ministers said to be `Household names` appear on the `Operation Ore ` list of subscribers to hard-core child pornography. The same FBI investigation, which led to the arrest of rock star Pete Townshend.

Jesus Christ!!!!!!!
 












Soulman

New member
Oct 22, 2012
10,966
Sompting
Then we have theories from over the pond.
According to former child sex slave Virginia Roberts and a class action lawsuit against convicted billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, former President Bill Clinton was present during sex parties involving up to twenty underage girls at Epstein’s secluded island in the Caribbean. That flight records show Clinton was flown on numerous occasions to the island on Epstein’s private jet. Clinton had a close relationship with an employee of Epstein’s who compiled thousands of photos of nude young girls posed in lewd positions. And these photos were used as a catalog for Epstein to loan out his girls to powerful politicians and British royalty, including Bill Clinton.
While Epstein was indicted and jailed for his pedophilia, Bill Clinton oddly has remained unscathed, more than likely by having friends in high places.
 






Northstander

Well-known member
Oct 13, 2003
14,031
Read up on Jill Dando and Elm Guest House, this will get messier before it gets cleaner

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dingodan

New member
Feb 16, 2011
10,080
Then we have theories from over the pond.
According to former child sex slave Virginia Roberts and a class action lawsuit against convicted billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, former President Bill Clinton was present during sex parties involving up to twenty underage girls at Epstein’s secluded island in the Caribbean. That flight records show Clinton was flown on numerous occasions to the island on Epstein’s private jet. Clinton had a close relationship with an employee of Epstein’s who compiled thousands of photos of nude young girls posed in lewd positions. And these photos were used as a catalog for Epstein to loan out his girls to powerful politicians and British royalty, including Bill Clinton.
While Epstein was indicted and jailed for his pedophilia, Bill Clinton oddly has remained unscathed, more than likely by having friends in high places.

Do you mean this Jeffrey Epstein?

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/mar/13/prince-andrew-jeffrey-epstein

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carlzeiss

Well-known member
May 19, 2009
6,145
Amazonia
From the Independent newspaper , 3rd Feb 2013



Two alleged victims of a sophisticated pedophile ring at the centre of a police investigation claim they were taken on trips to Amsterdam where they were sexually abused in brothels in the 1980s.

One male victim had been taken from the Grafton Close care home in Richmond, south-west London, it is claimed, and, as well as being trafficked in Amsterdam, was rented out to customers at the Elm Guest House, a bed and breakfast nearby. Another man has claimed he was taken to Amsterdam on a different trip.

Police are understood to be looking into the men's claims as part of Operation Fernbridge, an investigation into historic child abuse set up in the wake of the Jimmy Savile scandal. Detectives are building a picture of the reach of the network – which allegedly used the property – and have seized a number of files from local authorities.

The Elm Guest House in Rocks Lane, Barnes, said to have been frequented in the Seventies and Eighties by prominent peoples including former Tory politicians, is at the centre of the investigation.

An Independent on Sunday investigation last week revealed the disgraced former MP Cyril Smith was a frequent visitor to the property, and it is understood detectives have also looked at the role of Carole Kasir, the guest house manager who died in suspicious circumstances.

To some, German-born Kasir's liberal-minded attitudes prompted her, in the mid-1970s, to offer a meeting place for gay men embarrassed by their sexual orientation just a decade after it was made legal. To others it was the starting place that ultimately led her to accumulate substantial sums of money by letting rooms where child porn videos were shot and exploitative men could abuse underage boys brought in from a local care homes.

Kasir – who ran the guest house with her husband Haroon Kasir, died on 17 June 1990, aged 47, eight years after a specialist police team raided the guest house, which has since been turned into flats.

At the inquest into her death, the court heard Kasir, a diabetic, was found by a friend about 11am with "numerous injections and phials of insulin" next to her body, but that did little to stem a series of outlandish allegations. The inquest was shown suicide notes allegedly written by Kasir to her lover, but three witnesses – two child protection workers and a private detective – queried the provenance of the notes, telling the court Kasir feared for her life because of what she knew. She had been receiving threatening phone calls, was being harassed by police and told them she was being followed by an unmarked car, they said.

After adjourning the case several times, the coroner ruled she had "taken her own life" and that she died from hypoglycemia caused by an insulin overdose. Friends claimed there were questions that were not adequately answered, such as why Kasir was injected several times in the bottom, when she always took her injections in the arm. One witness at the inquest said he was shown photos of illustrious public figures in compromising poses, an allegation recently backed up by another witness.

Those friendly with Kasir said that, in the months before her death, she spoke about lifting the lid on the guest house, including listing those who visited, in a book.

In October last year, the Labour MP Tom Watson alleged in the Commons that there was evidence of child abuse in senior Tory circles. During the current investigation, Downing Street has been anxious to keep abreast of developments, but police have sought to maintain strict confidentiality. They are now pursuing a number of leads resulting from witness statements and documents seized after detectives raided the home of a former child protection worker last month. Anyone with information should contact Operation Fernbridge on 020 7161 0500.
 




Soulman

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Oct 22, 2012
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I seem to remember horror from a few posters when a few months ago i put up the names of the pedos in the Labour government.
 




dingodan

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Feb 16, 2011
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Whistleblower who prompted Operation Fernbridge says up to 40 MPs and peers knew about or took part in child abuse.

More than 10 current and former politicians are on a list of alleged child abusers held by police investigating claims of a Westminster paedophile ring.

MPs or peers from all three main political parties are on the list, which includes former ministers and household names.

Several, including Cyril Smith and Sir Peter Morrison, are no longer alive, but others are still active in Parliament.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...nvestigating-Westminster-paedophile-ring.html
 










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