The Daily Mail

[Seagull on the wing]

This!!
The Sunday has a different editor( the two editors are having a private little war) The Sunday mail is a great read for all political leanings.

At the end of the day you have the mail and sun on one side and the guardian and mirror on the other. Both can be extreme in their views. You pay your money and take your choice..enjoy them if you must but don't judge the people who read the one you don't like.

At last...somebody with a bit of nous...I read the Daily Mail...yes I know Ilm out of fashion with all the left here...(and I don;t care)....all these people who say they would never read it and yet comment on it being a rag....how do you know ?
If what is written is slanderous or lies...let's see if Milliband sues them...otherwise it's a news report...which is what a newspaper is for.

 

[The Large One]

At last...somebody with a bit of nous...I read the Daily Mail...yes I know Ilm out of fashion with all the left here...(and I don;t care)....all these people who say they would never read it and yet comment on it being a rag....how do you know ?
If what is written is slanderous or lies...let's see if Milliband sues them...otherwise it's a news report...which is what a newspaper is for.

How can he sue them? He hasn't been libelled.

 

[Leighgull]

At last...somebody with a bit of nous...I read the Daily Mail...yes I know Ilm out of fashion with all the left here...(and I don;t care)....all these people who say they would never read it and yet comment on it being a rag....how do you know ?
If what is written is slanderous or lies...let's see if Milliband sues them...otherwise it's a news report...which is what a newspaper is for.

Lifelong leftie and I read the mail regularly. Why? Know your enemy.

It's a deplorable piece of dross but how can one formulate an argument if one does not understand what motivates their enormous readership.

 

[Seagull on the wing]

All people who slate the Mail....read the Mirror tomorrow....front page story is that Cameron does not know the price of a loaf...at first he said it was over a £1,..(which it is) but then he said he was'nt sure because Sam uses a bread machine....World scoop or what ?

 

[Leighgull]

All people who slate the Mail....read the Mirror tomorrow....front page story is that Cameron does not know the price of a loaf...at first he said it was over a £1,..(which it is) but then he said he was'nt sure because Sam uses a bread machine....World scoop or what ?

It's worse than that. Samantha uses a bread machine using Somerset crunch organic granary flour which means each loaf at the Cameron's costs about £4.00.

Anyway..like **** does she bake her own bread. It's just a good way of avoiding falling into that tired old journo trick used on Tories since days of yore.

 

[W.C.]

All people who slate the Mail....read the Mirror tomorrow....front page story is that Cameron does not know the price of a loaf...at first he said it was over a £1,..(which it is) but then he said he was'nt sure because Sam uses a bread machine....World scoop or what ?

erm, so on the one hand we have a paper writing a story about the bread the PM eats, and on the other a paper smearing a man's dead dad (yes I've read it).

Silly old fashionable me, I think I dislike the latter just a little bit more. Just a little bit mind.

 

[W.C.]

The Daily Mail is full of wrong 'uns. This is the paper that gave a favourable review for Sex and the City 2. 'nuff said.

They also made up a story about the classic N64 game Goldeneye. Unforgivable.

 

[Seagull on the wing]

erm, so on the one hand we have a paper writing a story about the bread the PM eats, and on the other a paper smearing a man's dead dad (yes I've read it).

Silly old fashionable me, I think I dislike the latter just a little bit more. Just a little bit mind.

That's your choice...but the left celebrated the death of Maggie....was that a better report...maybe for the lefties...the Mail was not celebrating the death of Ralph Milliband...just saying he was a marxist....which Ed himself agreed was true
I think you'll find rhat the Mirror article is not about what bread the PM eats...more about the price of bread...;like everybody knows about the price of every article of food which fluctuates from day to day...

 

[W.C.]

That's your choice...but the left celebrated the death of Maggie....was that a better report..

which one??

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

This!!
The Sunday has a different editor( the two editors are having a private little war) The Sunday mail is a great read for all political leanings.

At the end of the day you have the mail and sun on one side and the guardian and mirror on the other. Both can be extreme in their views. You pay your money and take your choice..enjoy them if you must but don't judge the people who read the one you don't like.

Not quite, its the Telegraph and Sun on one side and the Guardian and Mirror on the other. The Mail and the Express exist in this bizarro world where everything will give you cancer, the weather is always 'extreme' and politics is about preserving our 19th century way of life.

 

[pastafarian]

The thing that always amazes me is that I've yet to meet anyone who admits to buying it -- but a lot of people clearly do. Is it something they have delivered under a plain wrapper; is it like voting Tory (well clearly it is in a sense) in that people do it in the privacy of the voting booth, but are ashamed to admit it to their mates because of what it says about them?

oh do grow up.

I vote tory and am not ashamed to admit it,all my albion going mates do as well and none are ashamed either, bar one who doesnt vote tory and is a serious socialist leftie,but he earns £200,000 a year minimum before bonuses so i dont take him too seriously on his beliefs, i also read the Daily Mail and i know plenty of people that admit to it also.

i suggest you just get out more

or stop being so childish.

 

[mikeyjh]

This!!
The Sunday has a different editor( the two editors are having a private little war) The Sunday mail is a great read for all political leanings.

At the end of the day you have the mail and sun on one side and the guardian and mirror on the other. Both can be extreme in their views. You pay your money and take your choice..enjoy them if you must but don't judge the people who read the one you don't like.

To compare the Mail to the Guardian is just silly - The Telegraph is the right's 'version' and like the Guardian, a good quality newspaper. It has it's lean to the right of course but is still a good read. The Mail, is full of vitriol against whichever disadvantaged section of society that they deem worthy of their bile on any particular day.

I haven't posted this fantastic piece of satire for a while:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eBT6OSr1TI

 

[The Large One]

oh do grow up.

I vote tory and am not ashamed to admit it,all my albion going mates do as well and none are ashamed either, bar one who doesnt vote tory and is a serious socialist leftie,but he earns £200,000 a year minimum before bonuses so i dont take him too seriously on his beliefs, i also read the Daily Mail and i know plenty of people that admit to it also.

i suggest you just get out more

or stop being so childish.

What is this obsession about being a 'socialist leftie' and having a few quid? Is that not allowed? Does it have to be a pre-condition that 'socialist lefties' are poor, or is it ignorant lazy stereotyping?

The point is, it's fine if you read the Daily Mail, but seeing as it's a paper that likes to peddle bigotry, misogyny, vague bouts of anti-semitism and exclusivity, it's understandable if its readers might fall into the trap of the misguided and meaningless notion that 'socialist lefties' with a few quid as hypocrites.

Still, with your sense of lazy stereotyping, I'd suggest it's you that needs to get out more.

 

[soistes]

oh do grow up.

I vote tory and am not ashamed to admit it,all my albion going mates do as well and none are ashamed either, bar one who doesnt vote tory and is a serious socialist leftie,but he earns £200,000 a year minimum before bonuses so i dont take him too seriously on his beliefs, i also read the Daily Mail and i know plenty of people that admit to it also.

i suggest you just get out more

or stop being so childish.

Well I've never met you, or your Mail-reading, Tory-voting mates. And the prospect of meeting you isn't much of an inducement to get out more if that's what it would entail.

And I you think my substantive point is childish, talk to an opinion pollster - they will all tell you that when predicting elections they always scale up the percentage of people who respond to opinion polls saying that they'll vote Tory, because experience shows that large numbers of people are embarrassed to admit voting Tory (even to an anonymous interviewer), but still go out and do so on Election Day. Some of them may even be Albion supporters.

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

oh do grow up.

I vote tory and am not ashamed to admit it,all my albion going mates do as well and none are ashamed either, bar one who doesnt vote tory and is a serious socialist leftie,but he earns £200,000 a year minimum before bonuses so i dont take him too seriously on his beliefs, i also read the Daily Mail and i know plenty of people that admit to it also.

i suggest you just get out more

or stop being so childish.

Well, this would explain why you're a climate change skeptic

 

[Tom Bombadil]

oh do grow up.

I vote tory and am not ashamed to admit it,all my albion going mates do as well and none are ashamed either, bar one who doesnt vote tory and is a serious socialist leftie,but he earns £200,000 a year minimum before bonuses so i dont take him too seriously on his beliefs, i also read the Daily Mail and i know plenty of people that admit to it also.

i suggest you just get out more

or stop being so childish.

You accuse someone of being childish after trotting out the champagne socialist denial. It must be an irony free zone in your household, but then i guess you do read the Daily Mail.

 

[mikeyjh]

Alastair Campbell described the Daily Mail absolutely perfectly last night "The worst of British values, posing as the best". Nothing to add to that.

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

This!!
The Sunday has a different editor( the two editors are having a private little war) The Sunday mail is a great read for all political leanings.

At the end of the day you have the mail and sun on one side and the guardian and mirror on the other. Both can be extreme in their views. You pay your money and take your choice..enjoy them if you must but don't judge the people who read the one you don't like.

I think this is more about judging the newspaper rather than the people who read it. I think most sensible people would accept that the Mail has a strange relationship with the truth and reality. The problem is that a lot of people read it and believe it.

Incidentally, both Cameron and Clegg have expressed some sort of support for Ed Miliband in this.

 

[cunning fergus]

I think you've collapse a lot of things together.

It is possible to despise the way a country is run, and the apparatus of the state, without despising the country itself. Just like Albion fans despised Bellotti, Archer and the Albion board, but that didn't mean they hated Brighton & Hove Albion. In fact the opposite was true. Similarly, Gandhi despised the way India was governed, but that didn't mean he despised India.

Similarly, I don't see how owning property is inconsistent with having Marxist beliefs. Are you saying you can only be a Marxist if you are poor? Miliband lived in a capitalist system and operated within it. Doesn't mean he couldn't see the limitations of it, and his own wealth to advocate a different system for himself and everyone else.

Well, I dont profess to be an expert on Miliband's writings, however for a committed (and published) Marxist like he was, what is left to like about about a country like the UK, once you remove the things he must have despised? You need to take away the monarchy, the ruling classes steeped in aristocracy and monatarists, the well established middle class and the working class that are aspiring to bourgaise values? Once you remove these aspects you are just left with geography and fishing.

Relativism doesnt help here either, no doubt those who blew themselves up on 7/7 and who have tried since find aspects of the UK to like...............however they still wanted to substantially change it though. And so did Miliband's old man.

As for Marxist beliefs reconciling with owning property, you need to go back to the books............owning propoerty is the corner stone of capitalism. A capitalist Marxist ideology is new one for me, however maybe you are confusing secret capitalists who spouse socialist and/or Marxist beliefs (like Miliband)

For example, Bob Crow is not poor but lives in a council house because of his political beliefs. Then again he is old Labour..............you can't disagree with his commitment to that. Miliband Sr said he was a Marxist and owned 2 houses...............go figure.

That's the point about this argument for me, notwithstanding the fact that I dont agree with the Mail's angle here at all, fact is Miliband's old man was a hypocrite.............so is his son..............they could easily expose Ed on that score. Leave his old man out of it.

 

[Seagull on the wing]

Alastair Campbell described the Daily Mail absolutely perfectly last night "The worst of British values, posing as the best". Nothing to add to that.

Did you really expect a leftie to praise a right wing newspaper? It depends what side of politics you be;ieve in...