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[News] The Coronavirus Good News thread
- Thread starter Bozza
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- Apr 5, 2014
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Your NEW husband ? You've only just got one !
Wardy's twin
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- Oct 21, 2014
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I apologise for upsetting the wider community but I found the original comment very insulting and felt it had to be answered.
No I'm suggesting those who venomously call for tighter restrictions, on going until there is zero covid, they mostly have a blue heart after their name and usually retired or are able to work from home and live a nice comfortable life, will be seething, they usually don't give a toss about anyone that has suffered financially or mentally due to the restrictions imposed, you prize c*nt x
I hope that clarifies things for you.
If you found it insulting, that says more about you than I, get some help if you're that triggered by a comment on a football message board....unless you do identify as a "covidian" in which case I'm glad you were triggered !
**Taps the thread title**
Wardy's twin
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- Oct 21, 2014
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39k positive tests reported today - lowest for 5 days and a big drop on 3 previous days (despite Monday reported numbers usually being a little higher than those reported at the weekend).
n1 gull
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Really good news, probably helped by not testing so many school children this week
Stumpy Tim
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Great news.. I haven't seen it reported though?
Meghan Bobrowsky [MENTION=17392]meg[/MENTION]hanBobrowsky
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18 Jul
American kids watched so much Peppa Pig during the pandemic that they developed British accents and started regularly using British words like “holiday” instead of “vacation,” confusing their parents. Pig facePig nose
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@WSJ
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18 Jul
American kids watched so much Peppa Pig during the pandemic that they developed British accents and started regularly using British words like “holiday” instead of “vacation,” confusing their parents. Pig facePig nose
My first A-Hed for
@WSJ
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@Preetika_Rana
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This is a good news thread. I would like to recant something I have written more than once, elsewhere, that the '% sucess rate of the vaccine' data are highly contaminated by failed vaccinations and people misreporting or medics misdiagnosing, and that the true success rate for the vaccine is fixed, and individuals are made either resistant or not. I omitted to consider that viruses are rather different from bacteria. The immune response to bacteria is typically quicker and more effective than that to a virus (bacteria are big buggers, less difficult to miss) and the outcome for a new vaccine for bacteria will appear to be all (100% immune) or none. However this is not the same for vaccines agains viruses. Clinical outcome (severity of disease and risk of death) are related to viral load (literally how many active viruses are attacking your cells). Having a vaccinated system means the immune response will be quicker than without, so move viruses are zapped more quickly, keeping the viral load below what it would have been. So instead of death you may get just severely ill, or not very ill, or no symptoms. Likewise as your viral load is less high there is less virus to spread so the R rate falls in the vaccinated population. That's how I understand it (now) anyhow. One lives and learns.
So looking at the data, yes there are lots of people positive and, for the moment, R is high. The proof of the vaccine pudding will be (i) if we see a much lower proportion of positives going to hospital in this wave. Currently the chance of people with Covid going to hospital is around one third what it was in Janury. And those who go to hospital are much less likely to die. That's the vaccine, that it. The other part of the proof will be (ii) if the increase in cases suddenly tips over and falls, with a swifter fall than last time, accompanied by a greatly reduced total number of hospitalizations, and a tiny peak in deaths. We shall know, in two weeks, if that's the case or not (all the numbers are currently still rising). Daily death numbers coming down will seal the deal for me. I'm optimistic, hence my posting on this thread
So looking at the data, yes there are lots of people positive and, for the moment, R is high. The proof of the vaccine pudding will be (i) if we see a much lower proportion of positives going to hospital in this wave. Currently the chance of people with Covid going to hospital is around one third what it was in Janury. And those who go to hospital are much less likely to die. That's the vaccine, that it. The other part of the proof will be (ii) if the increase in cases suddenly tips over and falls, with a swifter fall than last time, accompanied by a greatly reduced total number of hospitalizations, and a tiny peak in deaths. We shall know, in two weeks, if that's the case or not (all the numbers are currently still rising). Daily death numbers coming down will seal the deal for me. I'm optimistic, hence my posting on this thread
Richy_Seagull
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That post is grotesque
Unfortunately this thread has become harder and harder for the "really concerned about covid and understand why restrictions are in place" to look through. Shame as was great at first.Think personally will bow out myself and leave them to it.
EDIT - Not saying this is relevant to everyone, there is still some genuinely great stuff being posted, just with too many arguments inbetween.
This is a good news thread. I would like to recant something I have written more than once, elsewhere, that the '% sucess rate of the vaccine' data are highly contaminated by failed vaccinations and people misreporting or medics misdiagnosing, and that the true success rate for the vaccine is fixed, and individuals are made either resistant or not. I omitted to consider that viruses are rather different from bacteria. The immune response to bacteria is typically quicker and more effective than that to a virus (bacteria are big buggers, less difficult to miss) and the outcome for a new vaccine for bacteria will appear to be all (100% immune) or none. However this is not the same for vaccines agains viruses. Clinical outcome (severity of disease and risk of death) are related to viral load (literally how many active viruses are attacking your cells). Having a vaccinated system means the immune response will be quicker than without, so move viruses are zapped more quickly, keeping the viral load below what it would have been. So instead of death you may get just severely ill, or not very ill, or no symptoms. Likewise as your viral load is less high there is less virus to spread so the R rate falls in the vaccinated population. That's how I understand it (now) anyhow. One lives and learns.
So looking at the data, yes there are lots of people positive and, for the moment, R is high. The proof of the vaccine pudding will be (i) if we see a much lower proportion of positives going to hospital in this wave. Currently the chance of people with Covid going to hospital is around one third what it was in Janury. And those who go to hospital are much less likely to die. That's the vaccine, that it. The other part of the proof will be (ii) if the increase in cases suddenly tips over and falls, with a swifter fall than last time, accompanied by a greatly reduced total number of hospitalizations, and a tiny peak in deaths. We shall know, in two weeks, if that's the case or not (all the numbers are currently still rising). Daily death numbers coming down will seal the deal for me. I'm optimistic, hence my posting on this thread
I’d argue the lack of paragraphs here is a little grotesque…
Good. This is about where I'd like to be eventually - where Covid is something I might catch, like flu, but less likely as I'm fully vaxed, and I'm continuing to take reasonable precautions - but most importantly, although like flu it will be unpleasant, it is unlikely to kill me.
Also good news to me is that all those anti-vaxxers and micro-chip conspiracy theorists will find come September that they can't go clubbing, or presumably get into gigs either. I will be much happier going to gigs knowing that everyone else there is double jabbed!
I’ll be happy youngsters can’t go to gigs and talk all the way through and film everything on their ****ing phones.
Wardy's twin
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- Oct 21, 2014
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sorry if my 'argument' was the last straw for you .