little al
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ive read the site associated, i fail to see how they've been "bullied" into something for the sake of 75k each on the current arrangement.
im sure its not good for all clubs, but looking for some reasoned points why its so bad. if a club sets up a Catagory 1 acedemy, they get the same benefits whether they are Arsenal or Accrington, or are only certain clubs allowed to setup acedemies?
If you took a look at exactly how expensive and how much infastructure it requires for a category 1 academy, you'd see that only the big boys will get that status (at least in the next 5 years anyway). It is like saying that anyone can join an exclusive club in London once you've paid the £1m joining fee...
Anyway, the real point of the matter is that many clubs not just had this years 'solidarity payment' threatened by not agreeing to the Premier Leagues proposal, but future ones were at threat too. For many of the 72 league clubs (not least those in the Championship) that equated to a lot more than £70k. Those who do not rely on producing youth to sell on to survive will have seen the possible payment freeze from the Prem as a bigger threat to their sustainability than these changes. However, these changes will be catastrophic to those that voted against (and to a lesser extent the other clubs too).
It is not just the fact that the top clubs can come along and pick the best youth products without a care about the fee (as it will be minimal) but more the fact that once the majority don't cut it at that level, they'll be sold back to the football league clubs where they would have been anyway. Getting robbed twice! This will be a nice little earner for the Premiership teams mainly because the FA didn't want to set up and run a national academy to improve our nations footballers.
The other impact on the FL clubs is that when a player shows any promise, the club will have to offer him a full scholarship when he reaches 14 just to get any money back at all for him. Some clubs may not be in a position to afford that on a player that may not make it, yet are scared to lose a good player that they have invested time and money in for nothing!
The fact that the wider public have been lied to about it benefitting the England team just adds insult to injury and a quick look into the agreement shows that this applies to all youngsters regardless of which national team they qualify for. That shows that it really has naff all to do with improving our national side.
Surely with Bloom suggesting that he'll spend millions setting you up an academy, it seems odd that your lot voted in favour of a change that 'll mean you'll likely lose your best prospects for peanuts years before they even get near your first team. It'll be some years before the likes of Palace and BHA can go for cat 1 status, by which stage some damage may have been done.
It really is getting towards the time where we say R.I.P. to the true nature of the beautiful game in this country.
Surely with Bloom suggesting that he'll spend millions setting you up an academy, it seems odd that your lot voted in favour of a change that 'll mean you'll likely lose your best prospects for peanuts years before they even get near your first team.
For me that is still beside the point. If we could have the cat 1 system with the new proposals or leave the system as it is I'd chose keeping the status quo.
If you took a look at exactly how expensive and how much infastructure it requires for a category 1 academy, you'd see that only the big boys will get that status (at least in the next 5 years anyway). It is like saying that anyone can join an exclusive club in London once you've paid the £1m joining fee...
Anyway, the real point of the matter is that many clubs not just had this years 'solidarity payment' threatened by not agreeing to the Premier Leagues proposal, but future ones were at threat too. For many of the 72 league clubs (not least those in the Championship) that equated to a lot more than £70k. Those who do not rely on producing youth to sell on to survive will have seen the possible payment freeze from the Prem as a bigger threat to their sustainability than these changes. However, these changes will be catastrophic to those that voted against (and to a lesser extent the other clubs too).
It is not just the fact that the top clubs can come along and pick the best youth products without a care about the fee (as it will be minimal) but more the fact that once the majority don't cut it at that level, they'll be sold back to the football league clubs where they would have been anyway. Getting robbed twice! This will be a nice little earner for the Premiership teams mainly because the FA didn't want to set up and run a national academy to improve our nations footballers.
The other impact on the FL clubs is that when a player shows any promise, the club will have to offer him a full scholarship when he reaches 14 just to get any money back at all for him. Some clubs may not be in a position to afford that on a player that may not make it, yet are scared to lose a good player that they have invested time and money in for nothing!
The fact that the wider public have been lied to about it benefitting the England team just adds insult to injury and a quick look into the agreement shows that this applies to all youngsters regardless of which national team they qualify for. That shows that it really has naff all to do with improving our national side.
Surely with Bloom suggesting that he'll spend millions setting you up an academy, it seems odd that your lot voted in favour of a change that 'll mean you'll likely lose your best prospects for peanuts years before they even get near your first team. It'll be some years before the likes of Palace and BHA can go for cat 1 status, by which stage some damage may have been done.
It really is getting towards the time where we say R.I.P. to the true nature of the beautiful game in this country.
its that a case of accepting medicore facilities, just because they are local? there seems to be alot of focus here on what it might mean for individual clubs, what does the new set up mean for the actual talented youth coming through?
its that a case of accepting medicore facilities, just because they are local? there seems to be alot of focus here on what it might mean for individual clubs, what does the new set up mean for the actual talented youth coming through?
The campaign is based around the 72 clubs uniting, but unfortunately it only seems to be the ones with existing academies that fully appreciate what effect this may have on each club. And it's those clubs with existing academies that stand to lose the most. I can't see a huge backing for the protest on the Saturday as to most lower league clubs it simply won't have registered as much of an issue. They continue to get their yearly bonus to balance out that if in the very small chance they produce a star, they might lose him on the cheap.
Sadly I agree. The FL is more divided than any other organisation I can think of. There is no way we'll get close to 72 clubs uniting. I suppose all we can do is try, however.
Case in point, John Bostock. ...