So, hopefully if he loses the election, it will all go bust.
But by then I guess he will have cashed in, leaving others to lose out.
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But by then I guess he will have cashed in, leaving others to lose out.
Trump says he has $500m in cash right now. His lawyers say he cannot meet the $454m bond.
I wonder who is telling the truth?
www.theguardian.com
I wonder who is telling the truth?
Trump claims to have ‘almost $500m in cash’ despite inability to pay bond
Ex-president makes claim on Truth Social while RNC fundraising deal sees donations going to committee paying his legal bills
www.theguardian.com
Or Democrats will feel poorer and less free because they now realize Biden’s border policy is a national disaster, and will therefore vote for Trump. A really good opinion pice by Victor Davis Hanson.
Biden's Border Blowup
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How would any American feel "less free" because of the border control, or lack of, on the south of the US ?Or Democrats will feel poorer and less free because they now realize Biden’s border policy is a national disaster, and will therefore vote for Trump. A really good opinion pice by Victor Davis Hanson.
Biden's Border Blowup
I was just paraphrasing HWT’s original post.
“That money was just resting in my account”Trump says he has $500m in cash right now. His lawyers say he cannot meet the $454m bond.
I wonder who is telling the truth?
Trump claims to have ‘almost $500m in cash’ despite inability to pay bond
Ex-president makes claim on Truth Social while RNC fundraising deal sees donations going to committee paying his legal bills
To be fair, I didn't write anything about the Democrats.
I was trying to explain how people who voted for Trump (and others who didn't) might consider that they would (still) feel safer and richer under Trump (even though the data may not support these notions) and wondered whether you agree.
And you went all 'whatabout Biden'. You're better than that
Okay, what I should have said I was paraphrasing your words but flipping the parties. My apologies…To be fair, I didn't write anything about the Democrats.
I was trying to explain how people who voted for Trump (and others who didn't) might consider that they would (still) feel safer and richer under Trump (even though the data may not support these notions) and wondered whether you agree.
And you went all 'whatabout Biden'. You're better than that
“Trump isn’t lazy” what
?
Relentless (in a way e.g., Johnson can't be bothered) was what I mean“Trump isn’t lazy” what
Relentless and a workaholic. You can hate him, but you can’t call him lazy.
Workaholic or golfaholic?
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Do you have a copy of Michael Wolfe’s Fire and Fury? There’s a great description in there of how when Trump moved into the WH in 2016, he had locks installed on his bedroom door, 3 TVs installed in the room and after 6pm would retire for the evening and spend time watching TV and eating cheeseburgers. Conversely, according to a report quoted by a BBC article in 2018, ”Mr Obama had "night owl" habits and was known sometimes to stay up until 01:00am or 02:00am working after his family was asleep …Other presidents, like both Lyndon B Johnson and Bill Clinton, were known to make calls in the middle of the night.”
There are also accounts in Fire and Fury of how he refused to let WH staff clean up his room or pick piles of clothes up off the floor.
“According to the (Axios) report” the BBC article continued; “the president has designated "Executive Time" from 8:00am to 11:00am in the Oval Office, but actually spends these hours in his residence watching television, making phone calls and tweeting”. Trump built “unscheduled "Executive Time" during the work day“ into his diary which was “spent in the dining room next to the Oval Office where the president watches cable news…In one example Axios presented, the president's schedule began at 11:00 with "Policy Time", then "Executive Time" at 12:00, an hour for lunch, followed by more "Executive Time" from 13:30”
Trump also promised in August 2016; "I'm going to be working for you. I'm not going to have time to go play golf." He had wracked up at that point 298 visits to golf clubs at a cost to the taxpayer of $144,000,000. He played 19 rounds of golf in work hours just in his first 100 days in Office cf Obama once, Biden once.
The Report concluded that: “The main difference …,is that Mr Trump's reported schedule could be detrimental to his ability to govern effectively.”
Mrs Margaret Thatcher was known to have 4 hours asleep a night - getting up at 5am to start work then spending the evening cooking/looking after her family.
As World leaders go, Trump is a veritable burger-eating couch potato, spends a lot of time playing golf, watching reports about himself on cable news and a slob by all accounts
Trump’s daily schedule v Obama and Bush
Donald Trump would not be the first president to forgo a nine-to-five routine.
www.bbc.co.uk
Trump Golf Count
Trump Golf Count: Tracking President Trump's golf outings so you don't have to!
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Imagine the bloodbath if he had worked 8 hours days during his presidency. A saving grace really.Do you have a copy of Michael Wolfe’s Fire and Fury? There’s a great description in there of how when Trump moved into the WH in 2016, he had locks installed on his bedroom door, 3 TVs installed in the room and after 6pm would retire for the evening and spend time watching TV and eating cheeseburgers. Conversely, according to a report quoted by a BBC article in 2018, ”Mr Obama had "night owl" habits and was known sometimes to stay up until 01:00am or 02:00am working after his family was asleep …Other presidents, like both Lyndon B Johnson and Bill Clinton, were known to make calls in the middle of the night.”
There are also accounts in Fire and Fury of how he refused to let WH staff clean up his room or pick piles of clothes up off the floor.
“According to the (Axios) report” the BBC article continued; “the president has designated "Executive Time" from 8:00am to 11:00am in the Oval Office, but actually spends these hours in his residence watching television, making phone calls and tweeting”. Trump built “unscheduled "Executive Time" during the work day“ into his diary which was “spent in the dining room next to the Oval Office where the president watches cable news…In one example Axios presented, the president's schedule began at 11:00 with "Policy Time", then "Executive Time" at 12:00, an hour for lunch, followed by more "Executive Time" from 13:30”
Trump also promised in August 2016; "I'm going to be working for you. I'm not going to have time to go play golf." He had wracked up at that point 298 visits to golf clubs at a cost to the taxpayer of $144,000,000. He played 19 rounds of golf in work hours just in his first 100 days in Office cf Obama once, Biden once.
The Report concluded that: “The main difference …,is that Mr Trump's reported schedule could be detrimental to his ability to govern effectively.”
Mrs Margaret Thatcher was known to have 4 hours asleep a night - getting up at 5am to start work then spending the evening cooking/looking after her family.
As World leaders go, Trump is a veritable burger-eating couch potato, spends a lot if time playing golf, watching reports about himself on cable news and a slob by all accounts
Trump’s daily schedule v Obama and Bush
Donald Trump would not be the first president to forgo a nine-to-five routine.www.bbc.co.ukTrump Golf Count
Trump Golf Count: Tracking President Trump's golf outings so you don't have to!trumpgolfcount.com
OK well one of you must be wrong.Do you have a copy of Michael Wolfe’s Fire and Fury? There’s a great description in there of how when Trump moved into the WH in 2016, he had locks installed on his bedroom door, 3 TVs installed in the room and after 6pm would retire for the evening and spend time watching TV and eating cheeseburgers. Conversely, according to a report quoted by a BBC article in 2018, ”Mr Obama had "night owl" habits and was known sometimes to stay up until 01:00am or 02:00am working after his family was asleep …Other presidents, like both Lyndon B Johnson and Bill Clinton, were known to make calls in the middle of the night.”
There are also accounts in Fire and Fury of how he refused to let WH staff clean up his room or pick piles of clothes up off the floor.
“According to the (Axios) report” the BBC article continued; “the president has designated "Executive Time" from 8:00am to 11:00am in the Oval Office, but actually spends these hours in his residence watching television, making phone calls and tweeting”. Trump built “unscheduled "Executive Time" during the work day“ into his diary which was “spent in the dining room next to the Oval Office where the president watches cable news…In one example Axios presented, the president's schedule began at 11:00 with "Policy Time", then "Executive Time" at 12:00, an hour for lunch, followed by more "Executive Time" from 13:30”
Trump also promised in August 2016; "I'm going to be working for you. I'm not going to have time to go play golf." He had wracked up at that point 298 visits to golf clubs at a cost to the taxpayer of $144,000,000. He played 19 rounds of golf in work hours just in his first 100 days in Office cf Obama once, Biden once.
The Report concluded that: “The main difference …,is that Mr Trump's reported schedule could be detrimental to his ability to govern effectively.”
Mrs Margaret Thatcher was known to have 4 hours asleep a night - getting up at 5am to start work then spending the evening cooking/looking after her family.
As World leaders go, Trump is a veritable burger-eating couch potato, spends a lot of time playing golf, watching reports about himself on cable news and a slob by all accounts
Trump’s daily schedule v Obama and Bush
Donald Trump would not be the first president to forgo a nine-to-five routine.www.bbc.co.ukTrump Golf Count
Trump Golf Count: Tracking President Trump's golf outings so you don't have to!
@lasvegan what evidence do you have the Trump is a workaholic (in the context of running the country, not running his business and personal PR, which is clearly a preoccupation)?
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I suspect my opinion is probably a majority one here so I don’t think it’s a case of one person being right or wrong on NSC - the discussion is broader than that - the evidence is all there how Trump spent his evenings, how much he played golf and spent watching cables news while working - it was widely reported by WH staff at the time how Trump spent his Presidential time.
Perhaps you are also forgetting he ran the Country on Twitter
I think my point was that if he is a workaholic, he's working on seizing an advantage, any advantage for himself. He's not working hard on behalf of the American public. So I was agreeing with you.I suspect my opinion is probably a majority one here so I don’t think it’s a case of one person being right or wrong on NSC - the discussion is broader than that - the evidence is all there how Trump spent his evenings, how much he played golf and spent watching cables news while working - it was widely reported by WH staff at the time how Trump spent his Presidential time.
Perhaps you are also forgetting he ran the Country on Twitter
I am hoping that @lasvegan can justify his 'workaholic' assessment of Trump. And without simply stating that Joe Biden is normally finishing his Ovaltine and putting on his wee willy winky bedtime hat by 7 PM.
As it happens I distrust people who 'work' work into the wee hours. Being Pres is mostly about having vision, a plan, and good people. They don#t have to 'do' much heavy lifting themselves. They are also a figurehead. They should not be working out economic growth predictions when the football is on telly.
For me it isn't about how many hours Trump works, it is about how much of a **** he is.
I accept that @lasvegan thinks on balance Trump us better than Biden, but I don't think there is any need to make up a trope about him being a workaholic as justification. Being better than Biden is enough, surely? On balance I think Biden is better than Trump, but it is only my opinion.
I don’t have any evidence other than what I’ve read and what he has achieved. I guess it all depends on what source you deem more reliable, the “rabid right” or the “looney left”.
I prefer the dull middle. Not read anything about his putting in the extra mile there. Although maybe you think the BBC, for example, is loony left. I certainly hop not!