No way ?!?
Is that possible at this stage after convention ? I suppose he could just step down
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[Politics] The 2024 US Election - Trump v Harris
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Is that possible at this stage after convention ? I suppose he could just step down
Deportivo Seagull
I should coco
As long as Biden was in place then tangoman felt in control, now Biden has gone i suspect he‘s feeling a bit twitchy.No way.
Is that possible at this stage after convention ? I suppose he could just step down
You do wonder if Vance has started whispering that tangoman is too old …..
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Two attack lines on Kamala Harris, - colour and misogyny.
Ignorant Yanks. And this is a country we are so desperate to have a "special relationship" with?
No way ?!?
Is that possible at this stage after convention ? I suppose he could just step down
Why Trump Suddenly Thinks Picking J.D. Vance Was a Mistake
Joe Biden’s decision to drop out and endorse Kamala Harris to succeed him on the Democratic ticket has Donald Trump’s team scrambling.
newrepublic.com
StonehamPark
#Brighton-Nil
Let's be honest on why Kamala is where she is today, she was the 'DEI' pick for Biden (not even going into the WIllie Brown rabbit hole).
That might sound ugly and ruffle feathers, but that's why she was picked as VP, to gather more votes from female south asian and (some) black female voters.
And to clarify my own stance, I'm personally all for women in power, and I'd personally vote for Tulsi over all current possibilities if that was ever an option.
US Seagull
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It is a bit complicated after the convention. Much easier before. There really isn't any formal procedure for what to do if a nominee withdraws (or is withdrawn) after they are nominated because it hasn't happened before. Presumably the RNC would ad-hoc some rules to make it work. They'd probably be better off doing it before the DNC since even though the Republican side of the ticket is now set, the Democratic side is not, and so no ballots should have been printed yet.No way ?!?
Is that possible at this stage after convention ? I suppose he could just step down
US Seagull
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They (the MAGA cult) are already trying to criticize her for "laughing".
FFS, they really have nothing.
StonehamPark
#Brighton-Nil
People have been criticizing her flippant and very out of place mocking-style laughing since at least 2019 when discussing medicare, immigration, the border crisis and Afghanistan.
But I believe that you already knew that.
Not sure why it would ruffle feathers, he made a big point of having a woman VP before selecting Harris, and mentioned 4 black woman were on short list.
Pavilionaire
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I've always been quite impressed with Harris and could see her as President. However, I'm looking at it with British eyes and from a British political upbringing. America is different - more racist, more mysogynist. Assuming Harris gets the nomination, she has the mother of all fights on her hands but is the diametric opposite of Trump so this should be one hell of a battle.
I do think that Trump has made a bad error in selecting Vance as his running mate. In a tight contest every vote counts, and I don't feel Trump has broadened his appeal. Indeed in some ways Vance is more MAGA than Trump himself.
It is crucial that Harris chooses the right VP candidate that can appeal to middle America, is an excellent communicator and - ideally - will bring with them the backing of one of the swing states. Roy Cooper of North Carolina ticks many boxes but I like Mark Kelly of Arizona - former astronaut and Navy fighter pilot.
I do think that Trump has made a bad error in selecting Vance as his running mate. In a tight contest every vote counts, and I don't feel Trump has broadened his appeal. Indeed in some ways Vance is more MAGA than Trump himself.
It is crucial that Harris chooses the right VP candidate that can appeal to middle America, is an excellent communicator and - ideally - will bring with them the backing of one of the swing states. Roy Cooper of North Carolina ticks many boxes but I like Mark Kelly of Arizona - former astronaut and Navy fighter pilot.
US Seagull
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I've seen it argued that JD Vance was an arrogant pick (and also an arrogant prick, but I digress) intended as a victory lap over a fatally flawed Biden. He was never intended to pick up extra votes from undecided (it being decided that they didn't need them) and instead to stoke the base (again). He was also a last minute pick pushed by Donald Trump Jr (who bears more than a passing resemblance to Vance, if you wanted to unpack that weirdness) over the more boring (but less threatening) Doug Burgum.
Yet if she didn't laugh, they'd denounce her as a humourless ball-breaking feminazi.
Trumpian Republicans really are utter w@nkers.
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StonehamPark
#Brighton-Nil
Cheatle resigns.
seagullsovergrimsby
#cpfctinpotclub
Were Donald Trump and Hulk Hogan separated at birth because both of them are orange ?
RandyWanger
Je suis rôti de boeuf
About time too.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Kamala Harris fundraising has received $321million with a third of that from grassroots support.
StonehamPark
#Brighton-Nil
Will be interesting to watch Harris' first rally today in Wisconsin.
It'll also be very interesting to see if all of the Democratic Party's convention delegates unite and back her in August.
Wisconsin Rally live on YouTube in approximately two hours.
It'll also be very interesting to see if all of the Democratic Party's convention delegates unite and back her in August.
Wisconsin Rally live on YouTube in approximately two hours.
America will vote in a black President again if they believe in what they are selling, I'm assuming the same would apply with a woman as well, Clinton lost to Trump as she was awful
Harris has a chance, but this is the same person Trump was confident Vance would have the better of in a debate, will he fear her?
Trump would have planned for this.
I think she would be in a stronger position if Biden stepped down her and gave her the top job now.
StonehamPark
#Brighton-Nil
I think that's a little unfair and maybe disingenous. Hillary relatively significantly beat Trump in the popular vote.
I personally don't believe Vance was a good appointment, I was quite surprised he didn't go for someone much more popular, well known and generally liked by hispanic voters.
Ah, I'm not sure.
Maybe, I think it could go either way. More ammunition (should she make any flub/s as president) for the red team to use against her during the election campaigns. And on the other foot, more experience and confidence having performed in the role for a few months.
I do think it'd be a net-negative though if Biden were to vacate the Presidency at any time.