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[Politics] The 2024 US Election - Trump v Harris

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 114 37.5%
  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 170 55.9%
  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 19 6.3%

  • Total voters
    304
  • This poll will close: .


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He won't go to jail. Even if he's found guilty of a crime, I can't see the judges sentencing him to do time. And if they do, it will be appealed and appealed until it's too late to lock him up.
Death?

Bring it on!
 




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Bodian

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Not going too well for the prosecution at the moment, they still haven’t established what crime Trump is actually being charged with. But no matter, this is NY and anything can still happen…

The problem with that analysis is that the real crime isn't what he did (pay hush money to protect him / his campaign), but the subsequent cover up in payments and where the money came from.
 


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Well, yes - I was thinking he might die before all the trials and appeals finish. Personally I hope he doesn't - as he'll avoid the ignominy and punishment due to him.
He will avoid all that because America needs him to stand up to Biden and all that support Biden is giving to Ukraine. Very bad policies and very wrong. A terrible mistake. Etc.

:shootself
 






Albion my Albion

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Well, yes - I was thinking he might die before all the trials and appeals finish. Personally I hope he doesn't - as he'll avoid the ignominy and punishment due to him.

and what would really be apropos would be if Melania, Baron & his other children would not be allowed to attend his funeral. Melania probably doesn't want to and his children probably no longer want the publicity & attention from the media & public after the Dumpster is gone.
 






Zeberdi

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Not going too well for the prosecution at the moment, they still haven’t established what crime Trump is actually being charged with. But no matter, this is NY and anything can still happen…

Oh I think 34 counts of ‘falsifying business records in the first degree’ on the Indictment sheet gives a pretty strong indication of what he is being charged with …

 








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Deportivo Seagull

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Not going too well for the prosecution at the moment, they still haven’t established what crime Trump is actually being charged with. But no matter, this is NY and anything can still happen…

Pjmedia - a right wing ( their words not mine), subscription based platform. Hardly a valid source of news. Subscription based as no one will destroy their brand by advertising with them.
Babylonbee which is another of your sources describes itself as Conservative, Christian satirical website.
Either you are a WUM or just a weapons grade idiot, normally I always go with the former at times like this as no one can be that stupid ….but with you Im not so sure.
 


knocky1

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Pjmedia - a right wing ( their words not mine), subscription based platform. Hardly a valid source of news. Subscription based as no one will destroy their brand by advertising with them.
Babylonbee which is another of your sources describes itself as Conservative, Christian satirical website.
Either you are a WUM or just a weapons grade idiot, normally I always go with the former at times like this as no one can be that stupid ….but with you Im not so sure.
Indeed. Babylonbee is best described as Christofascism, a word I first heard on here
 




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Pjmedia - a right wing ( their words not mine), subscription based platform. Hardly a valid source of news. Subscription based as no one will destroy their brand by advertising with them.
Babylonbee which is another of your sources describes itself as Conservative, Christian satirical website.
Either you are a WUM or just a weapons grade idiot, normally I always go with the former at times like this as no one can be that stupid ….but with you Im not so sure.
I'm genuinely disappointed. We have discussed this time and time again. It is reasonable (even though I disagree with it) to argue, as a US citizen, that Trump is less senile than Biden and will waste less of my taxes, and will probably cut taxes so he gets my vote. But to back up this narrow but legitimate view with f***ing fake news websites is not a good look. It's the sort of look that graced Das Reich when he was allowed to post his nonsense on NSC. A poor look. A very poor look indeed.
 
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tedebear

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I'm genuinely disappointed. We have discussed this time and time again. It is reasonable (even though I disagree with it) to argue. as a US citizen, that Trump is less senile than Biden and will waste less of my taxes, and will probably cut taxes so he gets my vote. But to back up this narrow but legitimate view with f***ing fake news websites is not a good look. It's the sort of look that graced Das Reich when he was allowed to post his nonsense on NSC. A poor look. A very poor look indeed.

Its impossible to get to the facts of the matter in the senility debate...there is no way of medically or reasonably measuring it, so these fake news sites will dive head first into their "truths" and people who take is as truth are simply foolish and hoodwinked by the whole thing...

I liked this article, which has some useful observations to ponder and shows how this "seniliity vs box of frogs" is being used...

 


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Its impossible to get to the facts of the matter in the senility debate...there is no way of medically or reasonably measuring it, so these fake news sites will dive head first into their "truths" and people who take is as truth are simply foolish and hoodwinked by the whole thing...

I liked this article, which has some useful observations to ponder and shows how this "seniliity vs box of frogs" is being used...

When I say 'senility' I should remember to put it in quote marks.

There is no way the people who occupy the corridors of power would allow a senile man to make decisions about US governance. Slurring words does not mean senility.

However the various charges that Trump faces, and his general demeanour, reflect an active, malign and corrupt mind.
 




tedebear

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When I say 'senility' I should remember to put it in quote marks.

There is no way the people who occupy the corridors of power would allow a senile man to make decisions about US governance. Slurring words does not mean senility.

However the various charges that Trump faces, and his general demeanour, reflect an active, malign and corrupt mind.

There are quite a few articles which seem to suggest Biden is surrounded by one of the most clever teams in a very long time. Similar to Obama. Bring in the experts. Not sure Trump has the ability to spot an expert when he himself seems to think he is one on most topics. Drinking bleach for instance.
 


Zeberdi

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There are quite a few articles which seem to suggest Biden is surrounded by one of the most clever teams in a very long time. Similar to Obama. Bring in the experts. Not sure Trump has the ability to spot an expert when he himself seems to think he is one on most topics. Drinking bleach for instance.
The first thing Trump did when he was elected in 2016 was to sack all the experts and handed out key WH positions to members of his family (and Sreve Bannon!)

Drinking bleach, predicting hurricanes with sharpie science - It was literally a Presidency of painting by numbers by a colour blind narcissist!
 


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