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Tebbit attacks 'unreformed' Islam.
- Thread starter WATFORD O
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Meade's Ball
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Irrelevant Old Bigot Makes Mildly Inflammatory Statement.
It's a slow newzzzzzzzzzzz day, innit.
It's a slow newzzzzzzzzzzz day, innit.
Barnet Seagull
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I agree with him about multiculturalism - it can't exist.
The Large One
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Utter wanker though he is, incredibly, I find myself largely agreeing with that first paragraph.
Islam used to have a 'code' by which everything was questioned, and great advances were made in their civilisation. Then around 500 years ago, the Turks took over and said that nothing under their rule should be challenged. The 'thinkers' and leaders of the Muslim world were silenced, effectively grinding their advacements to a halt. And it has not picked up since that time.
I am paraphrasing, but that is kind of the nuts and bolts of it.
Islam used to have a 'code' by which everything was questioned, and great advances were made in their civilisation. Then around 500 years ago, the Turks took over and said that nothing under their rule should be challenged. The 'thinkers' and leaders of the Muslim world were silenced, effectively grinding their advacements to a halt. And it has not picked up since that time.
I am paraphrasing, but that is kind of the nuts and bolts of it.
The Large One
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It can and it does.Barnet Seagull said:
sullyupthewing
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The Large One said:
Yeah right
I think he is missing the point. If he is saying that Islamic countries of late haven't been setting the world alight in the field of Science, then he has a point because they haven't but this is more to do with repressive leadership, which even a good old soft leftie like me is against.
I am sure the scientific community in the UK has more than it's fair share of Muslim members.
Oddly enough I sort of have time for Tebbit as at least he says what is on his mind and allows a debate, as opposed to making guarded comments.
I am sure the scientific community in the UK has more than it's fair share of Muslim members.
Oddly enough I sort of have time for Tebbit as at least he says what is on his mind and allows a debate, as opposed to making guarded comments.
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Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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For a religon with no techonological advances in 500 years they're pretty good at making bombs...
The Large One
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sullyupthewing said:
OK, I give you...
Paella
Flamenco
Cous cous
Indian curry
Felafel
Tabouli
Reggae / Calypso / Samba etc
Ganga
and that's just scratching the surface. We all pick and choose various aspects of other cultures and traditions and incorporate them into our own. This is done largely through integration of people from different ethnic backgrounds and diverse origins, and celebrating the best that they have to offer. We should (and do) abhor their worst.
Like it or lump it, we are living in a multi-cultural society. It's too late if you to turn back to a single culture, because now in Britain, there is no such thing.
Lord Bracknell
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Was there ever?The Large One said:
Cue 'What have the Romans ever done for us?'
Barnet Seagull
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The Large One said:
That isn't multiculturalism, that's integration via cultural evolution.
Multiculturalism as far as I'm concerend is when many cultures coexist within a society and MAINTAIN their cultural differences.
I don't think it's possible to maintain cultural differences within a society without some form of cultural evolution.
Perhaps it's the definition that needs to change.
I'm all for multiple cultures in a society, but the cultural values need to synthesise into a common framework for it to work.
Cultures which staunchly seek to maintain their differences within a society breed segregationalism and not the integrated society which could work.
Tony Meolas Loan Spell
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Yeah the muslims are now trying to buy nuclear weapons coz they cant develop their own. Look at Iran....they are not exactly being secret about it...
Norman Baker suck my lozenge
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He should do,it was Brighton firemen that dug the old looney out of the rubble,and Brighton Doctors and Nurses that looked after his old woman.WATFORD O said:
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Gully
Monkey in a seagull suit.
...that bloke is, has always been and will always remain a complete and utter tit. End of.
The Large One
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I said I was 'scratching the surface' - a mere few examples. The status quo doesn't exist either - Britain's is an ever-evolving society. Look at the changes - for instance - in attitudes, class division, tolerance or intolerance in Britain from say 1945 to 1965, then 1965 to 1985, and 1985 onwards. Then compare and contrast.looney said:
Cultural diversity and multi-culturalism are not mutually exclusive - there are strands of society in which both can co-exist. I am not Jewish, and I will not go into a synagogue to worship, but that does not follow I cannot get on with Jewish people. And so on.