[Cricket] ***Sussex v Kent (4-dayer ... or more probable 3) ****

[CHAPPERS]

Ben Duckett just outscored Glamorgan by 9 runs.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/947061.html

 

[Martlet]

Davis Out.

Adams and Prior in.

Toumazi needs to go first - the most complacent, smug, unimaginative CEO I've seen at a sports club. When we fell out of Div 1 last year, his appointments from within cemented this for me.

Get Prior in as CEO, Adams as director of cricket and go from there.

 

[Gwylan]

Regardless of weak team and regardless of coaching staff, a professional cricket team should be able to bat out three hours on a pitch where 500 runs has just been scored.

That's a truly pathetic effort

 

[Moshe Gariani]

No-one was dropped for being out of form: five players injured and three others, otherwise engaged left little choice.

The question is, as I've mentioned before, is why no attempt was made to recruit a replacement for RHB, Prior and Yardy who have all retired in the last 18 months. Maybe we were too cash-strapped to replace them all, but not going for one looks foolhardy.

And getting rid of Rayner - who's on his way to winning the CC - doesn't look too clever either

Agreed that there was little choice available for this game and certainly no-one was dropped.

Cash is obviously key to the signing of experienced players and additional coaches. Cash is limited at Hove. The organisation is pretty lean considering the level of professional sport being played and the coaches and other club staff work hard.

There is some confusion (from outside) about certain roles in the club because the merged organisation "Sussex Cricket" now has responsibility for ALL cricket in Sussex and not just the professional team.

Ollie Rayner, Andrew Hodd, Tom Smith and now Mason Crane have all enjoyed relative success at other counties. No club gets every decision on players right but more significantly it is impossible to keep all young players produced. Sussex backed Will Beer and he has only really been a proper success in T20 cricket.

 

[Mackenzie]

Positives this season are the emergence of Whittingham, Archer and Garton and the batting of Nash (at times). The three bowlers are still very raw, but at least there is some talent to work with given the right coaching and opportunities,

The feeble batting needs major restructuring and has done for some time, we need to attract a Bell, Trott, Trescothick type to bolster the batting and help coach.

 

[Gwylan]

Positives this season are the emergence of Whittingham, Archer and Garton and the batting of Nash (at times). The three bowlers are still very raw, but at least there is some talent to work with given the right coaching and opportunities,

That "(at times)" is a bit mealy-mouthed: before this game Nash was the top scorer in Div 2. I agree that those three bowlers look promising - Archer in particular, is a real find.

I take Moshe's point about the amount of cash sloshing around Sussex but, as I've said before, given that we're not the richest county, having players like Robinson, Beer, Cachopa and Mills who only really (barring injuries) play OD and T20 cricket is too much of a luxury. Yes, have one or two one-day specialists but not four

 

[studio150]

Totally outplayed over 7 sessions.

Regardless of the team put out, there was a lack of application when batting, which to me was summed up by the run out on the first morning, where we had lost early wickets and should have been looking to knuckle down and regroup, but instead we went into one day mode and lost another wicket going for a quick single which we didn't need to.

In all our two innings lasted 82.5 overs which is a pathetic performance.

I don't think Kent set a defensive field all match with a minimum of 3 slips all game, and for a lot of the time, 4 slips 2 gullies and a short square leg.

Unless the batting is improved vastly, I see a lengthy stay in Division 2 as we will always be at risk of a collapse at any time, and will not be able to apply scoreboard pressure.

We need a figure loke Adams to come in to shake the group up and install a winning mentality

 

[Surf's Up]

Toumazi needs to go first - the most complacent, smug, unimaginative CEO I've seen at a sports club. When we fell out of Div 1 last year, his appointments from within cemented this for me.

Get Prior in as CEO, Adams as director of cricket and go from there.

100% correct.

 

[Surf's Up]

And its going to get worse before it gets better - Joyce is likely to be leaving for next season so our batting which is already pretty threadbare is going to be Nash and ......er ...........no-one.

 

[amexer]

Apart from been high profile, a previous captain, and writing column for Argus what does Chris Adams have to offer. Think there must be reason no county have offered him a job in last 2 years. Needs a new face that know one has any connection with. Had enough of jobs swapped round with Sussex family at begining of season

 

[goldstone]

No-one was dropped for being out of form: five players injured and three others, otherwise engaged left little choice.

What exactly do you mean by "otherwise engaged"? Surely they're professional cricketers contracted to play for Sussex so they can't just decide not to play. Hell, days and days go by when there's no Sussex match, so at least they can turn up when we DO play.

 

[ManOfSussex]

Apart from been high profile, a previous captain, and writing column for Argus what does Chris Adams have to offer. Think there must be reason no county have offered him a job in last 2 years.

As coach of Surrey at the time, the tragic events surrounding Tom Maynard did not enhance his reputation.

 

[Peter Grummit]

Against my better judgement, I went down for the last rites today.

In 40 years of watching Sussex, I can't remember a more abject batting performance (and that's saying something). We know we have a young team. We know we were likely to lose whatever. But a number of wickets were just wafted away, like the players didn't really care. Members and supporters short changed today.

He has had an ordinary hand, but I'm just not convinced Davis is up to the job.

This season is gone. Next season we will have:

Nash
Wells
Wright
Finch
Brown
Jordan
Magoffin
Archer
Garton/Whittingham

which means we need 2 experienced batters and a decent spinning allrounder as a minimum.

Briggs - not good enough for CC
Machin - ditto

PG

 

[Peter Grummit]

What exactly do you mean by "otherwise engaged"? Surely they're professional cricketers contracted to play for Sussex so they can't just decide not to play. Hell, days and days go by when there's no Sussex match, so at least they can turn up when we DO play.

Joyce was playing for Ireland. That's his prerogative and where he will solely be next season.
Archer went back to Barbados for a family funeral.
Not sure who the 3rd was?

PG

 

[Seagull58]

Toumazi needs to go first - the most complacent, smug, unimaginative CEO I've seen at a sports club. When we fell out of Div 1 last year, his appointments from within cemented this for me.

Get Prior in as CEO, Adams as director of cricket and go from there.

Prior (the big cheese) as CEO and KP as Director of Cricket would be much, much more fun.

 

[Gwylan]

Joyce was playing for Ireland. That's his prerogative and where he will solely be next season.
Archer went back to Barbados for a family funeral.
Not sure who the 3rd was?

PG

Jordan was playing for England

 

[Peter Grummit]

Jordan was playing for England

Of course. How very dare he.

PG

 

[BensGrandad]

Joyce was playing for Ireland. That's his prerogative and where he will solely be next season.
Archer county cricket next seasonwent back to Barbados for a family funeral.
Not sure who the 3rd was?

PG

I assume from that post that Ed Joyce is retiring from County Cricket if that is the case we will never score any runs.

 

[Gwylan]

Against my better judgement, I went down for the last rites today.

In 40 years of watching Sussex, I can't remember a more abject batting performance (and that's saying something). We know we have a young team.

I can. There were some shocking performances in the early to mid 70s. I remember losing to Hants by an innings and 200 runs on a plumb batting pitch (think Hants only lost a handful of wickets) and Sussex couldn't reach 200 in total. And that was a Sussex side with Greig and Snow, not young kids.

He has had an ordinary hand, but I'm just not convinced Davis is up to the job.

Yeah, I reluctantly agree. He's been let down by recruitment but a side should have more fight in it

This season is gone. Next season we will have:

Nash
Wells
Wright
Finch
Brown
Jordan
Magoffin
Archer
Garton/Whittingham

which means we need 2 experienced batters and a decent spinning allrounder as a minimum.

Briggs - not good enough for CC
Machin - ditto

I agree we need to boost our batting but you're a bit harsh on Machan. He scored just under 1000 runs last season, his first full one. He's struggled with a wrist injury all season so warrants a break. Briggs has been disappointing though. We also have Haines coming through - not seen him but heard good things (and he's only 17)

 

[goldstone]

Jordan was playing for England

That makes more sense than "otherwise engaged". I thought they had been forced to go shopping with their wives to Bluewater or been invited to a stag do.