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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)
- Thread starter vegster
- Start date
- Nov 11, 2009
- 11,967
Taking the Kursk NPP would surely be a huge propaganda victory for Ukraine and look terribly weak for Putin.
And Putins options, to attack or destroy his own NPP on his territory would be bleak.
Can only hope Ukraine does so!
- Aug 24, 2020
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I'm sure it is a real tactical target.
Ukraine has lived under the threat of an 'accident' at the Zap NPP for a long time. Perhaps taking the Kursk NPP is seen as insurance, either against an 'accident', or an actual nuclear attack, as well as a light switch which Ukraine can use to turn the lights off in western Russia.
In addition, I think, I think, the prevailing winds are from the west, meaning that should there be an incident at Kursk NPP, then Moscow would be in the firing line, which I'm sure you'll agree, is a bloody shame.
- Nov 11, 2009
- 11,967
Option 2?
Yes, option 2 would feel right to me:
- continue holding some Russian land
- continue embarrassment of Putin
- continue diversion of Russian troops
- can provide some artillery and drone cover from Ukrainian territory
- Should inhibit Russian attack options on own territory
I wouldn't see the point of going straight to option 3. Keep it as a fall back if 2 proved too difficult or costly to hold
I don't have a detailed map open so I'm unsure if 2 would mean giving up control of the gas hub, or of potential taking of the nuclear station??
- Aug 24, 2020
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My instinct would be option 2.
Option 1 is high risk. Putin will throw the kitchen sink at this (assuming he has a kitchen sink left in his kitchen). Option 2 would seem to retain all the benefits of option 1, without risking the whole house. It also, to an extent, occupies Russian forces, but leaves all options open for subsequent offensives.
Option 3 would probably not be that wise, as Putin might/would misread it as weakness.
That said, it's all speculation, which as you know, nobody could ever accuse us of doing on here.
- Nov 11, 2009
- 11,967
Try this Trig. Whole thread in one article.
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@WarintheFuture: The Ukrainian operation in Kursk is almost one week into execution. As the Russians slowly but surely redeploy forces to seal off the breach in their border and attempt to push the Ukrainians back i...…
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- Aug 24, 2020
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Superb timing. It saved me a whole lot of copying and pasting.Try this Trig. Whole thread in one article.
Thread by @WarintheFuture on Thread Reader App
@WarintheFuture: The Ukrainian operation in Kursk is almost one week into execution. As the Russians slowly but surely redeploy forces to seal off the breach in their border and attempt to push the Ukrainians back i...…
- Aug 24, 2020
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See below article at 06:26 for Putin trying to pass the blame for the Ukrainian advance into Kursk:
news.sky.com
Within that meeting, there's a link to the original Kremlin transcript, published by Putin to 'shift responsibility'. I would stick to the Sky article.
Ukraine-Russia war latest: Ukrainian troops 'still advancing in Russian region' - as Putin looks to 'shift responsibility'
Ukrainian troops are still thought to be advancing in the Kursk region, despite military blogger reports that progress had been halted. This comes as a leading thinktank suggests Vladimir Putin is shifting responsibility for failing to counter the invasion effectively.
Within that meeting, there's a link to the original Kremlin transcript, published by Putin to 'shift responsibility'. I would stick to the Sky article.
- Aug 24, 2020
- 6,561
I've just become aware of this 'live' real-time interactive map of the war zone.
Zoom in, zoom out, click on each icon, see the news updates as they come in on the right hand side. It seems to be from multiple sources.
e.g. hover over the icon over Kyiv:
'Lithuanian Defence Minister tells Ukrainian President that Russia is moving troops from Kaliningrad to Kursk'
liveuamap.com
Zoom in, zoom out, click on each icon, see the news updates as they come in on the right hand side. It seems to be from multiple sources.
e.g. hover over the icon over Kyiv:
'Lithuanian Defence Minister tells Ukrainian President that Russia is moving troops from Kaliningrad to Kursk'
Ukraine Interactive map - Ukraine Latest news on live map - liveuamap.com
Live Universal Awareness Map Liveuamap is a leading independent global news and information site dedicated to factual reporting of a variety of important topics including conflicts, human rights issues, protests, terrorism, weapons deployment, health matters, natural disasters, and weather...
liveuamap.com
Jesus wept. I am staggered at the amount of clashes and activity going on. Very disturbing to see this allI've just become aware of this 'live' real-time interactive map of the war zone.
Zoom in, zoom out, click on each icon, see the news updates as they come in on the right hand side. It seems to be from multiple sources.
e.g. hover over the icon over Kyiv:
'Lithuanian Defence Minister tells Ukrainian President that Russia is moving troops from Kaliningrad to Kursk'
Ukraine Interactive map - Ukraine Latest news on live map - liveuamap.com
Live Universal Awareness Map Liveuamap is a leading independent global news and information site dedicated to factual reporting of a variety of important topics including conflicts, human rights issues, protests, terrorism, weapons deployment, health matters, natural disasters, and weather...
(caveat: I don't give a sh*t what happens to the Russian army.)
- Aug 24, 2020
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It's a news aggregator or scraper, so any news that fulfills the criteria will be reported and an icon created.
Not all of it is clashes, and I doubt very much if any of it is verified or fact checked.
Hover over a few icons, and you will see how it works.
For an equivalent for BHAFC, see this link to 'Newsnow Brighton' for any and all news about Brighton. A pinch of salt is often required.
Brighton and Hove Albion News | Seagulls News - NewsNow
Latest news on Brighton & Hove Albion FC, covering the Seagulls' Premier League matches, transfer rumours, player performances and other top BHAFC stories
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That's very interesting, thanks,I've just become aware of this 'live' real-time interactive map of the war zone.
Zoom in, zoom out, click on each icon, see the news updates as they come in on the right hand side. It seems to be from multiple sources.
e.g. hover over the icon over Kyiv:
'Lithuanian Defence Minister tells Ukrainian President that Russia is moving troops from Kaliningrad to Kursk'
Ukraine Interactive map - Ukraine Latest news on live map - liveuamap.com
Live Universal Awareness Map Liveuamap is a leading independent global news and information site dedicated to factual reporting of a variety of important topics including conflicts, human rights issues, protests, terrorism, weapons deployment, health matters, natural disasters, and weather...
- Aug 24, 2020
- 6,561
Morning all.
I've realised that the interactive map doesn't render on phones, so you will need to use devices with bigger screens to use it.
Explosions overnight in Voronezh, east of Ukraine, and Nizhny Novgorod, east of Moscow. Belgorod has declared a state of emergency, and Moscow has reinforced its defences against sabotage.
I've realised that the interactive map doesn't render on phones, so you will need to use devices with bigger screens to use it.
Explosions overnight in Voronezh, east of Ukraine, and Nizhny Novgorod, east of Moscow. Belgorod has declared a state of emergency, and Moscow has reinforced its defences against sabotage.
Snippets from Denys Davydov yesterday:
1. Video of a Ukrainian jet operating on the border in Sumy. So must have some confidence that local air defense doesn't exist or has been knocked out.
2.' Russian z-bloggers reported that 2000 Russian soldiers have been captured in Kursk region.
1. Video of a Ukrainian jet operating on the border in Sumy. So must have some confidence that local air defense doesn't exist or has been knocked out.
2.' Russian z-bloggers reported that 2000 Russian soldiers have been captured in Kursk region.
And I guess we don't have to ship them all the way from Iran, N. Korea etc.Here's a screen grab from Denys. I read about and mentioned this a few weeks back... some European countries joined in a 'drone coalition ' to produce for Ukraine. Here's a delivery - go, Latvia