[Politics] Presidential Debate - Trump v Biden

[Surf's Up]

I’ve no doubt he will get a second term. Trump tailors his bullshit to appeal to the massive redneck population in the US.
He’ll romp home.
The way the world is going, if he could be President indefinitely, he’d be in power for at least ten years.

I wouldn't put it past him to "do a Putin"

 

[nicko31]

What seems highly likely is if Trump loses he won't go quietly or easily. Could be proper messy

 

[el punal]

I genuinely think he is mentally ill. The way he reacts to counter-argument and criticism is not normal, and it doesn't take much to get him to make spiteful remarks.

I’m of the same opinion. I was discussing as much with my daughter and we both agreed that part of his brain (if not all) has gone AWOL. The frightening thing in all of this are the toadying Republicans that suck up to him despite all the crap he spews and still will not oppose his views. As for his redneck, shit-for-brains, ya-hoo, ‘murica first dolts that will vote for him, all 100 million of them, God help us!

 

[drew]

I’ve no doubt he will get a second term. Trump tailors his bullshit to appeal to the massive redneck population in the US.
He’ll romp home.
The way the world is going, if he could be President indefinitely, he’d be in power for at least ten years.

He doesn't need to persuade the rednecks, that's a given. To win he needs the undecided/middle ground vote and that display last night isn't going to endear him to them.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I’m of the same opinion. I was discussing as much with my daughter and we both agreed that part of his brain (if not all) has gone AWOL. The frightening thing in all of this are the toadying Republicans that suck up to him despite all the crap he spews and still will not oppose his views. As for his redneck, shit-for-brains, ya-hoo, ‘murica first dolts that will vote for him, all 100 million of them, God help us!

I suspect Trump simply understands his market. He may come across to you and I like someone with mental health issues, but to his fanbase he is a stable genius. And to those who fear the democrats (like many in the UK 'fear' labour) they will hold their nose and vote for Trump (just as I would have and perhaps did hold my nose and vote Corbyn at the last GE - genuinely can't remember - would have voted for whever was more likely to beat the tory in my constituency).

Just like labour stumbled into into the tiny world of a clueless failure and his hopeless chums, just when it was needed to drive out a series of desperate, clueless and, latterly, venal tory leaders, the Democrats..... well you can guess the rest.

It is extremely unsettling to realise that many Americans fear the Democrats so much they are willing (if not happy, though many are) to back someone who regularly behaves like a taller Cartman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PZpKWcMxGo

 

[SimpKingpin]

I wouldn't put it past him to "do a Putin"

This has been my concern from the beginning.

He has far too much admiration for dictators.
Everyone thinks "it can't happen in America". Well, nothing would surprise me in 2020.
Trump does whatever the **** he wants and seems to be getting away with it.

He's a criminal, he appears to have a narcissistic personality disorder, he lies constantly and blatantly (and it's been normalised), he can barely string a sentence together (and it's been normalised).
I'm not even sure he wants the job, certainly not the responsibilities that come with it.
He's in love with power, money, celebrity but mostly himself.
He certainly doesn't give two ****s about the average person.

Not many politicians can be trusted but this guy seems determined to break all the rules of this so called democracy right in front of our eyes.
I suspect he'll win or steal the election - he started the "fraudulent mail-in voting" narrative ages ago, and it's working tremendously well already.
How the hell is Biden the alternative? (that's rhetorical).

I hope Gen Z destroys him at the polls but I'm not feeling very confident. Country is a mess.

 

[PersianNYer15]

Trump shoots himself in the foot yet again - if he would have been able to condemn white supremacists (no surprise he didn’t) he would have done some positive to digging himself out of the hole he’s currently in. Biden should have harped on that much more and continuously echo that when Trump kept bringing up his son & moscow. Biden wasn’t able to hit Trump while he was down at all - any other democratic nominee would have annihilated Trump last night. What a shame.....

 

[dejavuatbtn]

A population that voted for Brexit and Boris should not be sneering at anyone else

I was not commentating on behalf of a nation.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

I think Bidens real in these is not so much losing voters but being so uninspiring/shouty people just wont bother to Vote.

There was times he was chipping back, he would be better off allowing trump to just chat shit

 

[jessiejames]

God help America and the rest of the world with these two.
It's frightening that one of these two is going to be the most powerful man in the world.

 

[Stat Brother]

I think Bidens real in these is not so much losing voters but being so uninspiring/shouty people just wont bother to Vote.

There was times he was chipping back, he would be better off allowing trump to just chat shit

He needs to occasionally bait the hook.

Chipping in with a couple of well chosen, quietly spoken, jabs, would do wonders for his campaign going forward.

 

[KeithDublin]

Trump shoots himself in the foot yet again - if he would have been able to condemn white supremacists (no surprise he didn’t) he would have done some positive to digging himself out of the hole he’s currently in. Biden should have harped on that much more and continuously echo that when Trump kept bringing up his son & moscow. Biden wasn’t able to hit Trump while he was down at all - any other democratic nominee would have annihilated Trump last night. What a shame.....

With the exception of Buttigieg you are correct. Biden didn't do great, however, he did have some good moments, especially his defense of Hunter, and his issues with drugs.

 

[beorhthelm]

I wouldn't put it past him to "do a Putin"

What seems highly likely is if Trump loses he won't go quietly or easily. Could be proper messy

there's no way for him stay on, has no power to extend term.

 

[beorhthelm]

i see Trump camp is resorting to pushing claims Biden had an ear-piece and taking speed to stay alert. not really the direction of a campaign confident of winning.

 

[Mayonaise]

Oh....I don't know....he's mature ( 77 )....he's straight ( ask all the women who claim he has sexually assaulted them ) and he has an impeccable political background, over many years ( ).....what more could you ask for?

...somebody who could beat [guinessboy] the lying, chaotic, quasi-Nazi orange bungle**** with dubious financial affairs, obvious neopotism and one of the worst records on Covid [guinessboy] in an election

 

[knocky1]

i see Trump camp is resorting to pushing claims Biden had an ear-piece and taking speed to stay alert. not really the direction of a campaign confident of winning.

Jesus! He’d have been better off smoking a spliff and putting in ear plugs.

 

[drew]

there's no way for him stay on, has no power to extend term.

He'll have the supreme court on his side if he tries to change the law! The 22nd amendment limiting the presidency to two terms apparently only came in 1947. I guess the problem will be getting all 50 states to endorse it!!! Still, not sure that would stop him trying.

 

[driddles]

Interesting updated numbers on advanced polling. 1.7million now cast from states that report their numbers. At this same point in the 2016 election only about 10K people had voted.

People with Democratic affiliation outvoting Republicans almost 3-1. People with no party affiliation are outvoting Republicans. Looks like the early vote is coming out in Florida too with 132K votes cast already https://electproject.github.io/Earl...MnSrEa0EYxZGnfz4BJnJnr8Bx7AmcKSEQSJ4Pqbw_NvrQ


"So far, the numbers are consistent with a highly engaged electorate," [Michael McDonald, a University of Florida professor who runs the US Election Project] wrote. "I've been projecting for some time that perhaps as many as 150 million people will vote in the November election, which would be the largest number in raw terms, and the highest turnout rate for those eligible to vote since 1908."

 

[NooBHA]

I was really looking forward to the Debate and stayed up through the night for it.

It ended up like a tactical football match where Biden just let Trump play and just kept stepping out and catching him "offside" constantly. So boring.

Then in a wierd twist of fate. The Referee gave a Free Kick to Trump in his own box by asking him to condemn the "White Supremacist Group PB "

Miraculously. Trump took the Free Kick and said "Stand Back and Stand By"

That same Trump free kick response squirmed under his own keepers foot and into his own net..

After that all Biden had to do was keep springing his pre planned offside trap to see the game out.

I didn't even stay up for the final whistle because. Trump had already landed all his punches on Twitter in the weeks leading up to the match so he had no firepower on the bench.

Same again for the next 2 legs of the Debate.

All Biden needs to do is keep cool and let Trump score his obligatory own goal in each one.

 

[beorhthelm]

He'll have the supreme court on his side if he tries to change the law! The 22nd amendment limiting the presidency to two terms apparently only came in 1947. I guess the problem will be getting all 50 states to endorse it!!! Still, not sure that would stop him trying.

constitution changes go through congress and needs a 2/3rds majority from both houses, then states to ratify. wouldnt even get it through the Senate.