Prescott speaks

[Tooting Gull]

******* hell!

I've just seen a government news release which started:

Deputy Prime Minister John Prescott has granted planning permission for..


































...a motorway service area between junctions 9 and 10 of the M25. And some other ones. Rats cocks.

 

[Da Man Clay]

I can imagine those 3 seconds in your head.

YESSSSSSSSSS, FINALLY AN END THIS POINTLESS FALMER DEBATE,WE HAVE FINALLY GOT PERMISSION FOR FALMER, WHERE AM I GONNA GO FOR A DRINK TONIGHT.......

O for fucks sake

 

[London Irish]

Excellent, it's exactly halfway to watch my team every 2 weeks, why that area of the M25 hasn't had a comfort stop before now I'll never know.

 

[Yorkie]

Excellent, it's exactly halfway to watch my team every 2 weeks, why that area of the M25 hasn't had a comfort stop before now I'll never know.

You need a comfort stop in a 90 min drive?
Are you getting old?

 

[Bakesy]

You need a comfort stop in a 90 min drive?
Are you getting old?

What's wrong with that.........i need about 4 in a 90 minute game of football

(although alcohol could have something to do with it)

 

[Rambo]

So thats between Leatherhead and the A3.

Whats the point?

Its one of the busiest parts of the M25 and service stations are know to slow down the traffic.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

He's also just given planning permission for a Sports development, where the Inspector recommended refusal, after a Public Inquiry.

I particularly like the bit I've highlighted in RED



This is the decision letter (which I guess is in the same shape that our decision letter will take):-


TOWN AND COUNTRY PLANNING ACT 1990 - SECTION 77
APPLICATION BY SGSS GURDWARA (TEMPLE) FOR A SPORTS HALL AND PARKING AT LAND TO THE NORTH OF STOKE POGES LANE, SLOUGH, SL1 3LW
PLANNING APPLICATION: P/12254/000

1. I am directed by the First Secretary of State to refer to his letter of 22 June and to the report, enclosed with that letter, of the Inspector, Sue Turner RIBA MRTPI IHBC who held a public inquiry on 1 & 2 March 2005 into the application by SGSS Gurdwara (Temple) for a sports hall and parking at land to the north of Stoke Poges Lane, Slough, SL1 3LW.

2. The Secretary of State's letter of 22 June 2005 forms part of the decision in this case.

3. The Inspector recommended that planning permission be refused. For the reasons set out in his letter of 22 June 2005, the Secretary of State indicated that he was minded to disagree with the Inspector's recommendations, subject to receiving a certified, signed and dated planning obligation made in accordance with the provisions of section 106 of the Town and Country Planning Act 1990 as described in the next paragraph below. In so doing, the Secretary of State agreed with the Inspector that the proposal is inappropriate development in the Green Belt and therefore by definition harmful. However, for the reasons set out in his letter, the Secretary of State was satisfied that very special circumstances exist that clearly outweigh the identified harm.

4. The Secretary of State concluded that, contrary to the Inspector, the proposal is capable of complying with policies in PPG13 and PPG17 on accessibility and sustainability. However, he considered that this could only be concluded if the provisions set out in the draft section 106 agreement, including the delivery of appropriate highway works, and restrictions on the use and occupancy of the building, are confirmed in a formal, signed, undertaking under section 106 of the Town and Country Planning Act. The Secretary of State therefore deferred his decision at that stage to provide the parties with the opportunity to provide a certified, signed and dated planning obligation made in accordance with the provisions of section 106 of the Town and Country Planning Act 1990 dealing with these matters.

Matters arising since the Secretary of State's letter of 22 June

5. The Secretary of State provided the parties with a period of one month to submit the certified, signed and dated planning obligation made in accordance with the provisions of section 106 of the Town and Country Planning Act 1990 dealing with the matters set out above. The Secretary of State received a certified, signed and dated planning obligation from Slough Borough Council and the Developers on 16 July 2005.

6. The Secretary of State considered the s106 agreement in terms of how effective it would be in delivering against the matters laid out above. He also considered the agreement against the ability to enforce the provisions within it.

7. The Secretary of State noted that the Section 106 agreement submitted made no reference to the period within which the twelve non-sporting days could take place. The Secretary of State considered therefore that it would be difficult to enforce the provision at paragraph 3 of the Second Schedule. In his letter of 22 August 2005 the Secretary of State invited the s106 parties to consider whether they would wish to make a revision to the planning obligation to reflect this point before he proceeded to make his final decision. The Secretary of State provided the parties with a period of 2 weeks in which to respond.

8. In response, the Secretary of State received a letter dated 25 August 2005 from Slough Borough Council setting out the terms of a revised agreement, which was subsequently incorporated into a certified and signed planning obligation from Slough Borough Council and the Trustees of Gurdwara Sri Guru Singh Sabha, and which is dated 7 September 2005.

9. During the period since 22 June 2005, the Secretary of State has also received a letter from Margaret Baker of 49 Cromwell Drive, Slough, SL1 3ND on behalf of the Hawthorne Tenants and Residents Association. A copy is not enclosed with this letter, but can be made available on written request to the address at the top of this letter. The Secretary of State is satisfied that the letter did not raise any new issues to be taken into account in arriving at his decision.

Conclusion

10. Having considered the certified, signed and dated planning obligation made in accordance with the provisions of section 106 of the Town and Country Planning Act 1990, dated 7 September 2005, the Secretary of State considers, for the reasons given above, that his conclusions set out in the letter of 22 June remain unchanged.

Formal Decision

11. Accordingly, and for the reasons given above and in his letter of 22 June 2005, the Secretary of State hereby disagrees with the Inspector's conclusions and grants planning permission for a building to comprise changing rooms/showers, small indoor sports hall and kitchen, together with children's play area, sports field, parking for 60 cars together with access from Stoke Poges Lane, for use in association with adjoining playing fields, at land to the north of Stoke Poges Lane, Slough, SL1 3LW, subject to the following conditions:

* The development hereby permitted shall begin before the expiration of five years from the date of this decision.
* The development hereby permitted shall not be carried out except in complete accordance with the details shown on the submitted plans, numbered SB/03/06/1A dated January 2003 and SB/03/06/02 dated January 2003.
* No development shall take place until samples of the materials to be used in the construction of the external surfaces of the development hereby permitted have been submitted to and approved in writing by the local planning authority. Development shall be carried out in accordance with the approved details.
* The means of access, including any alterations to existing points of access between the application point and the highway, shall be formed, laid out and constructed in accordance with specifications and with sight lines as submitted in further details to be approved by the local planning authority prior to the commencement of the development.
* No development shall be commenced until visibility splays of 4.5 metres by 60 metres have been provided at the junction with the public highway. The visibility splays shall thereafter be kept free of all obstruction higher than 900mm above the adjoining carriageway level.
* The vehicular access to the development shall be constructed to a structural capacity suitable to carry an 11-ton axle load and shall be made available at all times for service vehicles.

* No part of the development shall be used until space has been laid out within the site for 60 cars to be parked, including a minimum if 3 parking spaces for use by disabled persons, in accordance with details which have been submitted to and approved in writing by the local planning authority before development commences.
* No part of the development shall be used until a green travel plan, to include management of traffic on the 12 days on which social use of the building is permitted, has been submitted to and approved in writing by the local planning authority. It should set out a five year plan and be implemented within three months of receipt of the written approval. Further reviews shall be submitted every five years subsequent to the date the travel plan is first approved.
* No part of the development shall be used until secure bicycle parking has been provided on site in accordance with the Council's guidelines approved in 1998. Details of the siting and appearance of the bicycle parking shall be submitted to and approved in writing by the local planning authority prior to the completion of the development. The approved cycle parking shall be permanently retained thereafter.
* The development hereby approved shall not commence until details of access arrangements for construction traffic and delivery vehicles have been submitted to and approved in writing by the local planning authority. Sufficient parking for the vehicles of construction site staff and delivery vehicles shall be made available within the site before development commences. No construction traffic shall be parked on the public highway.
* The development hereby approved shall not commence until details of servicing arrangements including vehicle turning for coaches and service vehicles, including refuse vehicles, have been submitted to and approved in writing by the Local Planning Authority. Development shall be carried out in accordance with the approved details.
* Construction work shall not be carried out outside the hours of 08:00 and 18:00 on Monday to Friday, 08:00 to 13:00 on Saturdays and at no time on Sundays or Bank Holidays.
* No part of the development shall be used until details of external lighting have been submitted to and approved by the local planning authority. Lighting shall be provided in accordance with the approved details.
* No development shall take place until full details of soft landscape works and a tree planting scheme have been submitted to and approved in writing by the local planning authority and these works shall be carried out as approved before the building is occupied or during the first available planting season thereafter. These details shall include trees and shrubs to be retained and/or removed and the type, density, position and planting heights of new trees and shrubs, together with the boundary treatment. In the event of loss by death or any other means, any such planting shall be replaced and maintained permanently thereafter.
* No part of the sports centre as hereby approved shall be used between 22:00 in the evening and 09:00 the following day.

* No soakaways shall be constructed such that they penetrate the water table and soakaways shall not in any event exceed a depth of 3 metres below existing ground level.
* Surface water control measures shall be carried out in accordance with details which shall have been submitted to and approved in writing by the local planning authority before development commences.
* The machinery, plant or equipment installed or operated in connection with the implementation of this permission shall be so enclosed and/or attenuated that noise from the site does not at any time increase the ambient equivalent noise level when the machinery, plant or equipment is in use measured according to BS.4142:1997 at any adjoining or nearby premises.
* No development shall take place until details of safety measures in conformity with the Grand National Archery Society's up to date guidelines to be provided in connection with the archery range, including fencing and netting, have been submitted to and approved in writing by the local planning authority. Such guidelines shall be put into practice at all times that the archery ground is in use, but no fencing/ netting shall remain in place at any time when the archery ground is not being used.
* Notwithstanding Class B to Part 4 of the Town and Country Planning (General Permitted Development) Order 1995, no tents, marquees or other classes of temporary structures or buildings shall be erected on any part of the application site unless first approved in writing by the local planning authority.

12. Attention is drawn to the fact that an application for any consent, agreement or approval required by a condition of this permission has a right of appeal to the Secretary of State if consent, agreement or approval is refused or granted conditionally, or if the local authority fail to give notice of their decision within the prescribed time period.

13. This letter does not convey any approval or consent which may be required under any enactment, bye-law, order or regulation other than section 57 of the Town and Country Planning Act 1990 and section 8 of the Planning (Listed buildings and Conservation Areas) Act 1990.

Right to challenge the decision

14. A separate note sets out the circumstances in which the validity of the Secretary of State's decision may be challenged by making an application to the High Court within six weeks from the date of this letter.

15. A copy of this letter has been sent to Slough Borough Council and all other parties who appeared at the inquiry or submitted subsequent representations.

 

[Yorkie]

I don't like the look of clause 14

14. A separate note sets out the circumstances in which the validity of the Secretary of State's decision may be challenged by making an application to the High Court within six weeks from the date of this letter.

 

[dougdeep]

That's great news. At last there will be a services between Crawley and Toddington.

 

[Stumpy]

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Excellent, it's exactly halfway to watch my team every 2 weeks, why that area of the M25 hasn't had a comfort stop before now I'll never know.

The amount of times I had to have a piss on the hard shoulder on the way to Oxford is beyond belief. Now I dont even travel to Oxford and he grants planning permission. I am angry Mr Prescott, appease my anger. I will let you know how......

 

[The Clown of Pevensey Bay]

9. During the period since 22 June 2005, the Secretary of State has also received a letter from Margaret Baker of 49 Cromwell Drive, Slough, SL1 3ND

Some relative of Norman's?

 

[The Oldman]

I like this bit

* No part of the development shall be used until secure bicycle parking has been provided on site in accordance with the Council's guidelines approved in 1998. Details of the siting and appearance of the bicycle parking shall be submitted to and approved in writing by the local planning authority prior to the completion of the development. The approved cycle parking shall be permanently retained thereafter.

Do you think he will make us all cycle to falmer?

 

[Leekbrookgull]

Well,if Falmer folk dont like it,go live in Slough!! I am sure residents of Slough,be happy to live in Falmer and take in the sea air!!

 

[Leekbrookgull]

Cycle from Leek? do me a favour its 220 miles