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Portuguese Brickies On 1K A Week!







BigGully

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Sep 8, 2006
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No it isn't. They are European just like the British brickies so it makes no difference.

Oh right, so you feel somehow this invalidates any comment on EU workers working within the UK.

You do not make yourself clear if your comment is a statement of fact in terms of employment rights within the EU countries or whether you do not wish to differentiate between European nationalities per se ??
 


sams dad

I hate Palarse
Feb 7, 2004
6,383
The Hill of The Gun
I was working on a job in South London recently, and was getting more than £200 per day. It's the going rate for working in our capital city.
 


dazzer6666

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Mar 27, 2013
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Burgess Hill
Article in the papers a couple of months ago said the top British brickies now earn the equivalent of 100k a year (ie two grand a week). It's all supply and demand, innit. With 200,000 new homes being built in the UK brickies are in short supply, you have to pay more to get them, import some from overseas, etc. All the Mail's story demonstrates is the extent to which migrant workers are helping to boost the UK's economic recovery.

Agreed. We be utterly knackered without migrant workers. In London virtually all waiting staff, cleaners, bar staff, kitchen staff etc are migrants (and they typically work bloody hard too).
 






Gregory2Smith1

J'les aurai!
Sep 21, 2011
5,476
Auch
Agreed. We be utterly knackered without migrant workers. In London virtually all waiting staff, cleaners, bar staff, kitchen staff etc are migrants (and they typically work bloody hard too).

you ever worked even ONE day on a building site ,let alone 30 years

you wouldn't know a hard days work if it came up and smacked you in the face

cleaners,bar staff,don't make me ****ing laugh,just an excuse to expoilt people,like immigrants!!!

office snobs,you can't beat 'em can you like modern day politicans,totally detached from the outside world
 




melias shoes

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Oct 14, 2010
4,830
What this story displays is the short-termism of British industry. During the recent recession, housebuilding largely ground to a halt. Many brickies left the trade or emigrated, and training places for new entrants were slashed. It's as if someone thought that the need to build things had permanently diminished, rather than been temporarily reduced by a lack of available capital. Now that the construction sector has picked up, there's a skills shortage. Depressingly predictable.
It's a bit like what happened late 80s early 90s when there was a shortage of work over here. Bricklayers poured into Germany and very welcome to see us too.
 




melias shoes

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Oct 14, 2010
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Issue appears that not enough well qualified so some being imported. No issue with that - paid similar rate....move on

When you say not well qualified, I take it you mean not enough bricklayers, because if you're suggesting British Bricklayers aren't well qualified then I have an issue with that!
 


melias shoes

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Oct 14, 2010
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I worked on building sites back in the Uk for 25 years and with many different nationalities and one thing I did learn that was the majority of them were what we call in the trade 'line monkeys'

meaning ****ing useless,glorified block layers

I know quite a few decent face brickwork lads in the UK that don't earn nothing like a grand a week

but of course all the experts on here that have never set foot on a building site know far more than me

Spot on mate. Got plenty of those where we are. All different nationalities give them a straight wall with profiles no problem. Give them a wall with curves and a Bulls eye or catchment trays. F***ing clueless. Still what do we know we're just at the front line of it.
 


BN9 BHA

DOCKERS
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Jul 14, 2013
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I worked on building sites back in the Uk for 25 years and with many different nationalities and one thing I did learn that was the majority of them were what we call in the trade 'line monkeys'

meaning ****ing useless,glorified block layers

I know quite a few decent face brickwork lads in the UK that don't earn nothing like a grand a week

but of course all the experts on here that have never set foot on a building site know far more than me

I saw an advert last week for site bricklayers, £140 a day and hods £120 a day, as you know when the weather is crap you can't lay bricks.

I used to do site work plumbing on new housing developments, all price work and bloody hard work on most sites.
All well and good if you have a long run of work and the materials are delivered on time, also many trades are working in each other's way.

I would not want to go back to site work ever again.
 




Dandyman

In London village.
I worked on building sites back in the Uk for 25 years and with many different nationalities and one thing I did learn that was the majority of them were what we call in the trade 'line monkeys'

meaning ****ing useless,glorified block layers

I know quite a few decent face brickwork lads in the UK that don't earn nothing like a grand a week

but of course all the experts on here that have never set foot on a building site know far more than me

Sounds about right. The UCATT minimum rates are here: http://www.ucatt.org.uk/construction-workers-should-check-pay-packets-ensure-pay-rise-included
 


melias shoes

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Oct 14, 2010
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Wouldn't training up homegrown brickies involve employers having to invest in its workforce? Hows that going to happen under a regime that knows the price of everything and the value of nothing?
Stick to something you know about. young bricklayers are being trained all the time and they come onto sites all the time. They are properly trained and know considerably more than a lot of the rubbish that turn up claiming to be bricklayers.
 


BN9 BHA

DOCKERS
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Jul 14, 2013
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Newhaven
£200 for a 'water rat' seems about right and £300 upwards for gas or specialist (white goods, bathroom install/tanking etc)

In my (non bias..) opinion of course.

Who are you calling a 'water rat ' ??? :wrong: :lolol:

I'm a very skilled tradesman :D
 




melias shoes

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Oct 14, 2010
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I saw an advert last week for site bricklayers, £140 a day and hods £120 a day, as you know when the weather is crap you can't lay bricks.

I used to do site work plumbing on new housing developments, all price work and bloody hard work on most sites.
All well and good if you have a long run of work and the materials are delivered on time, also many trades are working in each other's way.

I would not want to go back to site work ever again.
Don't blame you mate, I know what you mean.
 


Rocky Robin

New member
Nov 15, 2010
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I work in IT and we have 2 Portuguese guys with Cisco CCIE qualifications and are on £130 a day where other UK contractors are on £350 to £600! Am sure once their English is better they will be asking for more. They moved their families over and said jobs are hard to come by over there!
. my point being its not just brickies
 


melias shoes

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Oct 14, 2010
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When I was 18/19, I was earning that as a labourer on German building sites, happy days indeed!
The place was flooded with Brits, just hard workers trying to find the best opportunity for themselves???

You're absolutely right we did. As one of my previous posts has suggest.
 






User removed 4

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May 9, 2008
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Haywards Heath

You haven't got a clue about subbies and how the building industry works have you ? You can't have or you wouldn't be posting the links you did, you're typical of the sort of left winger who claims 'solidarity with the working class ' but has absolutely no idea of their hopes or aspirations beyond what you've read in some union pamphlet.
 




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