Police arrogance? Do they serve us or do we serve them?

[Soulman]

Iv'e never attended a funeral of someone i do not like. Iv'e never been to a funeral where people have turned up to disrupt and upset the mourners.
She will be buried this week, 23 years after she did good/bad for this country.
That is 23 years to sort out the perceived mess, that some seem to think she put this country in.
Seems to me that the country is a lot worse off than in 1989......in my opinion.

 

[vegster]

I might need to correct you, the police are there to prevent any civil disturbance or breach of the peace, booing or disrupting the funeral is going to lead to a breach of the peace for sure, so the police are entitled by law to take action to head that type of incident happening, yes?

In that case maybe the Rozzers should always have a presence at Prime Ministers Question Time in The House on Wednesdays ? Lots of shouting, booing and nasty things said there too.

 

[vegster]

What I would like is if the people who are their to "celebrate" did so without disrupting the funeral and did so whilst not wearing balaclava's and scarves over their faces. Whilst you are going to tell me that this has not happened yet, I am pretty certain that it will.

What they should really be protesting against is why no government since she left office 23 years ago, has reversed her policies, which is what should have happened if they were so wrong.

Your homework for tonight then is to estimate the cost of buying back from shareholders, the Railways,British Gas, British Telecom, the water companies, Railtrack and building a million new council houses and flats.

I await with interest.

 

[BadFish]

Your homework for tonight then is to estimate the cost of buying back from shareholders, the Railways,British Gas, British Telecom, the water companies, Railtrack and building a million new council houses and flats.

I await with interest.

**** em, take them all back by force

Power to the people

Viva la revolution

 

[Buzzer]

:Smile:

By all means nick people if they are intimidating, threatening or violent but turning your back of a hearse or booing is very different. The plod are there to ensure public order, not to judge manners.

Booing a hearse? Jesus wept. Where were all these Billy Big Scollobs a few weeks ago when she was alive? You could have stood at the end of her street and booed her as she came and went from her house. It sounds like you lot want to be seen to be outraged more than you actually pretend to care.

 

[HawkTheSeagull]

Booing a hearse? Jesus wept. Where were all these Billy Big Scollobs a few weeks ago when she was alive? You could have stood at the end of her street and booed her as she came and went from her house. It sounds like you lot want to be seen to be outraged more than you actually pretend to care.

Good post, it's just cowards coming out if the woodwork.

From seeing the "protest" on the TV last night, I'd say 75% were young and either weren't born when Thatcher was PM or were very young. A few were interviewed and it was the older people who were, though 1 young person was interviewed and they seemed to have no idea about Thatcher - it's just pathetic !!

 

[BadFish]

Booing a hearse? Jesus wept. Where were all these Billy Big Scollobs a few weeks ago when she was alive? You could have stood at the end of her street and booed her as she came and went from her house. It sounds like you lot want to be seen to be outraged more than you actually pretend to care.

Are you really suggesting that people would have been demonstrating and booing outside a sick old lady's house?


for the last 23 years?

 

[BigGully]

Wow, some mean spirited souls here.

All funerals are to different degrees a celebration of the departed's life, it seems more than reasonable for all of us to respect those that attend their love ones funeral.

It isnt about what your politics might be, those gleefully hoping for some level of disruption. needn't ever use the term the 'nasty party' when describing their political opponents, it has become more than apparent who really are the nasty ones.

 

[Buzzer]

Are you really suggesting that people would have been demonstrating and booing outside a sick old lady's house?


for the last 23 years?

I'm saying that at any point over the last 23 years you could have booed her when she was alive.

And why is it morally reprehensible to boo a sick old lady but perfectly acceptable to boo her at her funeral? What a skewed moral compass you have.

 

[BadFish]

Wow, some mean spirited souls here.

All funerals are to different degrees a celebration of the departed's life, it seems more than reasonable for all of us to respect those that attend their love ones funeral.

It isnt about what your politics might be, those gleefully hoping for some level of disruption. needn't ever use the term the 'nasty party' when describing their political opponents, it has become more than apparent who really are the nasty ones.

I would agree with you if this were a private funeral but if it is a state funeral (sorry a ceremonial funeral) paid for by tax payers money I think that gives the people the right to (respectfully) protest.

 

[BadFish]

I'm saying that at any point over the last 23 years you could have booed her when she was alive.

And why is it morally reprehensible to boo a sick old lady but perfectly acceptable to boo her at her funeral? What a skewed moral compass you have.

You are saying it would be less cowardly to boo and old lady rater than boo her at her funeral and I am the one with the skewed moral compass.

For the record I would not have and will not boo her at any point, I just don't feel that strongly about her/ She is being held up as some kind of evil witch by one side and the savour of the modern world by the other. Both are deluded and I am just glad I am way over the other side of the world while everyone embarrasses themselves.

 

[Buzzer]

I would agree with you if this were a private funeral but if it is a state funeral (sorry a ceremonial funeral) paid for by tax payers money I think that gives the people the right to (respectfully) protest.

Respectfully disrupt a funeral? There's an oxymoron for you. Have some class, FFS.

How can you lot claim to take the moral high ground when you're talking about disrupting a funeral?

 

[Weststander]

Iv'e never attended a funeral of someone i do not like. Iv'e never been to a funeral where people have turned up to disrupt and upset the mourners.
She will be buried this week, 23 years after she did good/bad for this country.
That is 23 years to sort out the perceived mess, that some seem to think she put this country in.
Seems to me that the country is a lot worse off than in 1989......in my opinion.

But prior to the Brown and Blair debts, far better off than in 1979.

For those too young, or just hateful of anything non-'socialist, up until then:

Britain produced crap .... think Leyland and Vauxhall cars, the worst kitchen appliances and electronic goods.
Exports were crashing.
Strikes and other industrial actions were rife. Not a myth, all recorded in days lost stats.
Countries that had always been behind us in GDP per head, like Sweden, Japan. Italy and France caught up or overtook.
Difficult for the average family to buy a home.
Poor management leading major companies.
Lack of capital investment, as other countries went the other way and leapt ahead.
City and town centres and parks were looking more and more tired, as councils had run of cash.

 

[BadFish]

Respectfully disrupt a funeral? There's an oxymoron for you. Have some class, FFS.

How can you lot claim to take the moral high ground when you're talking about disrupting a funeral?

I haven't mentioned disrupting a funeral, you can't see how an event can be protested without disruption? you know little about protests.

Not that i am suggesting the funeral won't be disrupted but then that won't be respectful.

As it is a state funeral I can't see how people are not allowed to protest.

Who are 'you lot'? which 'lot' am i part of?

 

[Buzzer]

You are saying it would be less cowardly to boo and old lady rater than boo her at her funeral and I am the one with the skewed moral compass.

I didn't say cowards. I would call you lot attention-seeking hypocrites. If you feel strong enough to boo a corpse then why have none of these lot ever tried to let her know how they feel in the 23 years beforehand? I'd have thought that it would have been far more satisfying to have known that she would have heard it. She wasn't ill for all those 23 years, you know?

So yes, it would have been fine to boo her when she was alive and well. But I guess that only gave all these Billy Big Scollobs 20 years to have found the time to do that. I guess you were all busy then.

 

[Buzzer]

I haven't mentioned disrupting a funeral, you can't see how an event can be protested without disruption? you know little about protests.

Not that i am suggesting the funeral won't be disrupted but then that won't be respectful.

As it is a state funeral I can't see how people are not allowed to protest.

Who are 'you lot'? which 'lot' am i part of?

Protest of any kind will cause disruption. It's rather the point of it.

 

[vegster]

Good post, it's just cowards coming out if the woodwork.

From seeing the "protest" on the TV last night, I'd say 75% were young and either weren't born when Thatcher was PM or were very young. A few were interviewed and it was the older people who were, though 1 young person was interviewed and they seemed to have no idea about Thatcher - it's just pathetic !!

So, all those people under 70 years old, who protest against fascism where ever it appears, also have no right to be there ?

 

[KZNSeagull]

Your homework for tonight then is to estimate the cost of buying back from shareholders, the Railways,British Gas, British Telecom, the water companies, Railtrack and building a million new council houses and flats.

I await with interest.

And the cost of all the foreign investment in the UK that will disappear as soon as the N word is mentioned.

The point I was making is that it is pointless demonstrating against someone who has held no power for 23 years. If her policies were so wrong, they would have been changed. But they haven't been, so perhaps they were not wrong.

Tony Blair was the great saviour of the universe when he came to power and what did he do about her policies? It is pathetic that some aspects of society are blaming her for all the country's ills when successive governments have failed to do anything meaningful about them.

 

[BadFish]

I didn't say cowards. I would call you lot attention-seeking hypocrites. If you feel strong enough to boo a corpse then why have none of these lot ever tried to let her know how they feel in the 23 years beforehand? I'd have thought that it would have been far more satisfying to have known that she would have heard it. She wasn't ill for all those 23 years, you know?

So yes, it would have been fine to boo her when she was alive and well. But I guess that only gave all these Billy Big Scollobs 20 years to have found the time to do that. I guess you were all busy then.

I suppose it is similar to the sycophants who want to paint her as the saviour of the world have also waited until now to let the world know how much they loved her. It is kind of what happens when someone dies and is the media a lot.

I do love the image of individuals over the last 20 years walking past her house booing though.

Which 'lot' am i again?

 

[Buzzer]

So, all those people under 70 years old, who protest against fascism where ever it appears, also have no right to be there ?

Would this be the ones that were too busy boo her when she was alive? Funny how the chance to be on telly clears a busy calendar.