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[Albion] Palace Fans Biggest Fear



Tim Over Whelmed

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b.w.2.

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That started in 2003, so maybe it's a 25 year plan, and the 2 fell off?

Maybe, just maybe, they don’t have a plan. Just throw money at it in fire fighting situations seems to be ‘the Palace way’ TM


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Tim Over Whelmed

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Maybe, just maybe, they don’t have a plan. Just throw money at it in fire fighting situations seems to be ‘the Palace way’ TM


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Shirley not :mad::facepalm::lol::lol::lol:
 


schmunk

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Seems an odd anniversary to celebrate...? :shrug:

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bhanutz

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Typical Palace... Decide they are now the oldest team in the world and they have said it 3 times now... It must be true.. Even though no one else recognises this lie
 




Uh_huh_him

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Typical Palace... Decide they are now the oldest team in the world and they have said it 3 times now... It must be true.. Even though no one else recognises this lie

I assume they celebrated their centenary in 1963 rather than 2005 then, did they?.
Shame about the 30 years when they didn't exist at all, but no matter. Worlds oldest club. Of course they are.
 


Jim in the West

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For sure, but there’s a very deliberate overhaul of their squad going on this summer, they released lots of players that were either old or on big money. They’ve signed Guehi (21) and Olise (19) who look like they could have excellent futures, the Joachim Anderson for £20m is very smart, he was brilliant for Fulham last season. Obviously it’ll take time for these players to settle, adapt and learn new systems etc but if they can settle in quickly they could have a decent team, though it may be a case of strong first XI but little depth, but that’s to be expected with the overhaul that’s happening.

Good points - I think Palace have had a decent transfer window so far. They've been pretty clear that they have a strategy to bring through more young players, and play more progressive football. Changing style is, however, bl00dy difficult at this level. Obviously Palace tried it before, and abandoned the plan after four games! But in recent years, teams like Stoke and Watford* have tried and failed. It even took Guardiola and Klopp some time to establish their own style, with huge budgets to play with. We are a decent example of a successful transition (Hughton to Potter - quite a big change!).

It will be fascinating to see whether Palace continue to play a mainly conservative style, or whether they try to play with a bit more possession. The latter requires players who are very comfortable on the ball....and I'm genuinely not sure whether they have those in sufficient numbers (Eze is a perfect example, but obviously he's crocked for some time).

*In fact, Watford did it twice in the same season (19/20), firstly bringing back Quique Flores, then sacking him and appointing Pearson.
 


NorthLainer

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"Slightly absurd"

I assume they celebrated their centenary in 1963 rather than 2005 then, did they?.
Shame about the 30 years when they didn't exist at all, but no matter. Worlds oldest club. Of course they are.

https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/spo...news/stoke-crystal-palace-oldest-club-4111485

Not gone down to well in Nottingham or Stoke! Key quotes from the article: -

"19th Century football experts Mark Metcalf and Clive Nicholson have produced an 84-page document of their own research to dispute Palace's Victorian credentials. It has been submitted to the FA, EFL, for adjudication.
The riposte centres around whether the Palace which got going 115 years ago has credible links with the works team of the Crystal Palace Company, which was set up in 1852 in the wake of the Great Exhibition.
In a joint-statement, Metcalf and Nicholson say: “This is quite a claim and being very interested in football history we sought to see if it was true. Our examination was very thorough and has resulted in an 84-page document packed with primary/contemporary source materials. “This document shows the Crystal Palace Football Club claim is slightly absurd and is ultimately reduced to a short note in 1906 in the CPFC club handbook and which appears never to have been mentioned again anywhere by CPFC since very recently.
“It is possible to forget your own history but that really is a serious memory lapse.”

Metcalf, who wrote The Origins of the Football League, and Staffordshire-based Nicholson, behind Flying Over an Olive Grove – a biography of Sheffield Wednesday legend Fred Spiksley – insist that the claim is flawed. They add: “We reveal that the first CPFC side were affiliated to the FA between 1861 and 1875, at which point the club ceased to exist.“There is then no FA affiliated club with the FA for a 30 year period until a new and totally separate club forms in 1905.”
 




bhanutz

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https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/spo...news/stoke-crystal-palace-oldest-club-4111485

Not gone down to well in Nottingham or Stoke! Key quotes from the article: -

"19th Century football experts Mark Metcalf and Clive Nicholson have produced an 84-page document of their own research to dispute Palace's Victorian credentials. It has been submitted to the FA, EFL, for adjudication.
The riposte centres around whether the Palace which got going 115 years ago has credible links with the works team of the Crystal Palace Company, which was set up in 1852 in the wake of the Great Exhibition.
In a joint-statement, Metcalf and Nicholson say: “This is quite a claim and being very interested in football history we sought to see if it was true. Our examination was very thorough and has resulted in an 84-page document packed with primary/contemporary source materials. “This document shows the Crystal Palace Football Club claim is slightly absurd and is ultimately reduced to a short note in 1906 in the CPFC club handbook and which appears never to have been mentioned again anywhere by CPFC since very recently.
“It is possible to forget your own history but that really is a serious memory lapse.”

Metcalf, who wrote The Origins of the Football League, and Staffordshire-based Nicholson, behind Flying Over an Olive Grove – a biography of Sheffield Wednesday legend Fred Spiksley – insist that the claim is flawed. They add: “We reveal that the first CPFC side were affiliated to the FA between 1861 and 1875, at which point the club ceased to exist.“There is then no FA affiliated club with the FA for a 30 year period until a new and totally separate club forms in 1905.”

They have got to be the biggest bullshitters in football history... Zaha never dives and now this!
 


Sheebo

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So 1905 - always just behind us with everything but also give us a ****ing good laugh trying to claim stuff with lies - of course 2010 is the correct answer though :thumbsup: Pathetic franchise.
 


eaglesdan

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So not much has changed recently then. CPFC have a new manager and have made some signings that are either, injured, overrated or just sh1t, and we are spending way above our means again. Who knows how it will turn out, thats the attraction of football, its not carried out on paper. And yet the BHAFC truck rolls on relentlessly, funded by Uncle Tony's permanent loan that can be increased every year by however much is required, and the continued steady progress year on year must surely lead to a top 10 finish sometime soon. All football fans are blinkered in their support for their team, but it does strike me that BHAFC seem to have more than their fair share of fans who are overly optimistic, and blinkered about finances. Should the worst happen to Uncle Tony, what would happen if his family decide to call in the loan? Is there a plan B?
I keep reading all the stats about last season, and only a very few will admit that the stats that matter most are the league table, where, last season, CPFC finished above BHAFC, and matches between the two clubs, where we took 4 points out of 6 from the 2 games. Stats around possession xG, dodgy VAR decisions are irrelevant.
I still say if the roles had been reversed and you had won a game against us, with 10% possession, no shots on target, and an own goal in the 95th minute, they would have been mass celebrations here (and rightly so)
 




eaglesdan

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So 1905 - always just behind us with everything but also give us a ****ing good laugh trying to claim stuff with lies - of course 2010 is the correct answer though :thumbsup: Pathetic franchise.

Franchise? How does that work? Played in south London for our entire existence from whenever you choose to believe (1861, 1905, 2000, or 2010)
 


nickbrighton

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Franchise? How does that work? Played in south London for our entire existence from whenever you choose to believe (1861, 1905, 2000, or 2010)

because despite you wanting to believe the club started in 1066 or whatever date Palace are making up today ,A bit like someone buying up the name "woolworths" and opening a shop and saying we have been in existence since the original shop opened, the actual club has only existed since 2010. The current CPFC is just the third version of an old club name. Franchise is possibly not the exact term, but it is closet. Someone has just started afresh with the name, the look , the why the club name is CPFC2010 and not CPFC1861

Franchise is just a term used when someone buys the rights to use the branding etc of an existing entity. So its close, to what Palace do.
 


eaglesdan

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because despite you wanting to believe the club started in 1066 or whatever date Palace are making up today ,A bit like someone buying up the name "woolworths" and opening a shop and saying we have been in existence since the original shop opened, the actual club has only existed since 2010. The current CPFC is just the third version of an old club name. Franchise is possibly not the exact term, but it is closet. Someone has just started afresh with the name, the look , the why the club name is CPFC2010 and not CPFC1861

Franchise is just a term used when someone buys the rights to use the branding etc of an existing entity. So its close, to what Palace do.

Surely you were closer to being a franchise when you upped sticks and moved to Gillingham and then the Withdean, all because you allowed the Goldstone to be sold from underneath you
 






Sheebo

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Surely you were closer to being a franchise when you upped sticks and moved to Gillingham and then the Withdean, all because you allowed the Goldstone to be sold from underneath you

:lol: First prize for not taking in the explanation given. As for the last sentence, you’re not even worth biting to. Oooh aaah Eric Cantona :thumbsup: Get some history then come back.
 




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