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[Football] ‘Offshore Jim’ at Man United







Iggle Piggle

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Sep 3, 2010
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Oldest trick in the corporate book.

Plead poverty to the staff and boast of your wealth to corporate partners and shareholders
My wife works for a large Corporate American company. The first half of the mail she received said how well the company had done achieving the requisite profit and revenue target.

It then went onto explain that there were no pay rises and 5% of the worldwide workforce was being cut.

Textbook.
 


Withdean South Stand

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Mar 2, 2014
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In truth, I think Man Utd clearly needed to review their operational costs and having 400-500 permanent members of staff is extreme. If you assume an average wage of 20k PA, getting rid of 200 of those people will save £4m per year and that's significant. Obviously, they need to look at the higher earners and that is why Rashford was shooed out of the club on loan, as was Antony. Sancho was binned in the summer.

All of the interview is eye watering, but the idea that they're paying out £89m in transfer fees in the summer window even if they don't buy anyone at all is incredible. The squad is absolutely useless. Even if they had everyone fit and available right now, they'd be struggling to get into the top 10. They'll never struggle to recruit players but they are going to struggle to get Casemiro and Onana out of the door. And then they've got Rashford to come back in the summer, and Sancho and Antony. It's going to be a messy few years, financially.
 




Withdean South Stand

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So a new 100000 stadium being built as part of Old Trafford regeneration project. How are they paying for that then?
There will be some public investment in there for sure, but infrastructure spending is separate from the sustainability rules. They absolutely need to focus on their infrastructure over the next few years, in part to try and catch up to the Albion! I wonder how many times we've been mentioned in their board meetings and planning sessions - trying to work out how they could have fallen so far behind us in such a relatively short period of time.
 














TWOCHOICEStom

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Sep 22, 2007
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This has to be AI shirley? Absolutely horrendous.

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Flounce

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I listened to whoever gave the hard sell about the stadium, United’s iconic status and history including United having a billion followers worldwide and being the biggest club in the world and my reaction was and is


Arrogant corporate bullshit hyperbole

:shrug:

The biggest club in the world, Real Madrid, have won the Champion’s League and it’s equivalent 15 times and United come in 7th with 3 wins, so how arrogant and deluded is it to suggest United are the biggest club in the world?

There are 8 billion people in the world so 1 in 8 are apparently following United, what a load of absolute bullshit.
 
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Badger

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May 8, 2007
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My wife works for a large Corporate American company. The first half of the mail she received said how well the company had done achieving the requisite profit and revenue target.

It then went onto explain that there were no pay rises and 5% of the worldwide workforce was being cut.

Textbook.

I'm pretty sure a similar email is about to drop in my work inbox.
 


Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
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This has to be AI shirley? Absolutely horrendous.

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Maybe it's the old planning trick of proposing something that looks so obscene/dramatic/shitehouse, when the actual proper final plans go through they are much more palatable. A bit like they used to do with concept cars at motor shows before manufacturers realised they cost shit loads of money for – often – not a lot of return.
 




jackanada

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Jul 19, 2011
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Brighton
Secondhand source from inside the club but apparently the level of pettiness bought to the clubs operations is outstandingly ridiculous.
Think men on high six figure salaries counting carrots and querying why bog paper use exceeds 3 sheets per person per day.
 




Uter

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Aug 5, 2008
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The land of chocolate
In truth, I think Man Utd clearly needed to review their operational costs and having 400-500 permanent members of staff is extreme. If you assume an average wage of 20k PA, getting rid of 200 of those people will save £4m per year and that's significant. Obviously, they need to look at the higher earners and that is why Rashford was shooed out of the club on loan, as was Antony. Sancho was binned in the summer.

All of the interview is eye watering, but the idea that they're paying out £89m in transfer fees in the summer window even if they don't buy anyone at all is incredible. The squad is absolutely useless. Even if they had everyone fit and available right now, they'd be struggling to get into the top 10. They'll never struggle to recruit players but they are going to struggle to get Casemiro and Onana out of the door. And then they've got Rashford to come back in the summer, and Sancho and Antony. It's going to be a messy few years, financially.
As an aside we had 463 full-time employees (inc. players) in 2024 according to the accounts. Non-playing full time employees rose from 124 to 341 which is an enormous increase. There must be a logical explanation for this. It looks far more than natural growth you might reasonably expect.

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Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
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Uffern
I'm pretty sure a similar email is about to drop in my work inbox.
Yeah, my company had a conference to all employees talking about boosted performance and rise in revenue and profits. At the same time, there is a big restructuring under way with a chunk of jobs being cut - including mine. It's the way of the world
 




Badger

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May 8, 2007
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Toronto
Yeah, my company had a conference to all employees talking about boosted performance and rise in revenue and profits. At the same time, there is a big restructuring under way with a chunk of jobs being cut - including mine. It's the way of the world
Sorry to hear that. Exactly the same is happening with my company, some big restructure which we should hear the details of in a couple of weeks. I'm actually hoping I'm one of the ones to get cut. It's not the same company since we got taken over my corporate America and I should at least get a decent package.
 


Withdean South Stand

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Mar 2, 2014
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As an aside we had 463 full-time employees (inc. players) in 2024 according to the accounts. Non-playing full time employees rose from 124 to 341 which is an enormous increase. There must be an logical explanation for this. It looks far more than natural growth you might reasonably expect.

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That's really interesting - has this been discussed anywhere? @El Presidente - do you happen to have done any comparison on staffing numbers across PL clubs?

If some buttering up is required, I thought @El Presidente was hilarious on the Fan Debate - clearly those guys don't know your NSC persona, but sneaking in a browser history joke was magnificent. And not a joke.
 


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