seagullwedgee
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- Aug 9, 2005
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Breaking news. Is it beginning?
We need to assassinate this physco to make the world a better place.
We need to assassinate this physco to make the world a better place.
Kim or Trump?
Only the loony left can blame Trump for this situation. I know he doesn't diffuse the tension but maybe it's getting beyond that. They last did a big test in September when America had a proper president.
And the reason the "looney left" are concerned (and everyone else should be concerned) about trump is because if this situation is to ever be resolved peacefully without a collosal amount of casualties, then its going to be through diplomacy and will require a huge amount of patience. Trump is a moron and absolutely incapable. American policy concerning north Korea has been criticised for years and years for lacking a proper understanding of the situation and that's when there were far more capable presidents in office.
Only the loony left can blame Trump for this situation. I know he doesn't diffuse the tension but maybe it's getting beyond that. They last did a big test in September when America had a proper president.
If China weren't such a bunch of ***** and constantly going against every other nation calling NK out this situation might be a lot different.
China is the super power in that region, they need to start acting like a nation that is opposed to tyranny and not supportive of it. Then the US wouldn't need to make noises like they do.
If China weren't such a bunch of ***** and constantly going against every other nation calling NK out this situation might be a lot different.
China is the super power in that region, they need to start acting like a nation that is opposed to tyranny and not supportive of it. Then the US wouldn't need to make noises like they do.
Trump's been played like a fiddle.
NK is very unlikely to strike, but with their threats to strike they're are doing two things. Flexing their muscles, which shows (or gives the NK people the impression) that Kim Jong Un is a powerful leader and they are testing the resolve of the U.S. Which leads the U.S into a difficult position.
The U.S has two options but neither leaves them in the favourable position.
1) Strike, but potentially face consequences from Russia and China, but they will be seen as the aggressor. An unlikely event, because I don't think Trump could afford a war so early in his premiership. NK effectively gains the moral ground as they had not striked in aggression. It also fulfils their 'cultural' destiny as everything they have essentially done is gearing up for a confrontation with the US.
2) Do nothing, NK effectively wins the right to do what it wants because the world's biggest superpower has not done anything. This reasserts Kim Jong Un's authority and strengthens his power.
Sanctions are not doing anything to stop them, though I would be interested in knowing if there has been an internal power struggle. Dictatorships rely on this aggro to keep the masses in check.
As Tyrone rightly points out - China's done an awful job, the irony of the situation is that this will mean a pivot of US military power towards the pacific. An area the Chinese should in theory, have the most influence in. With the Chinese becoming more nationalistic, I can't see Jinping being in power for much longer when the people demand a more confrontational leader.