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Bozza

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In fact, anyone who thinks firepower has been our issue this season clearly hasn't been watching. We've scored the same as Hull (54), more than Boro who have only got 51 and more than Derby (52). It's goals conceded where our goal difference falls down. Not really the sign of a side who have been negligent in recruiting firepower.

True, dat. I half-expected to find we had conceded more this season than last. We haven't, but the difference isn't huge. After 39 games we'd conceded 46 goals last season. This season it's 37.
 




8ace

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Jul 21, 2003
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I hear you . yet How come Hughton is blind to all of this ? how despite everything he played 50mins + in our last 3 games and a full 90 against Reading ? thats also a complete mystery.

Man Utd sent him here to get games under his belt, if he was fully fit I think they be a little vexed at his lack of minutes on the pitch.
 


Pavilionaire

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I agree that Wilson doesn't look right. I'd start Skalak - Manu wasn't even making the Huddersfield starting XI during his emergency loan, so if Manu starts it's tantamount to the Albion admitting they cocked up by not bringing in an emergency loan striker of their own.
 


Guinness Boy

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Hemed is our only 1 you can rely on and the sutuation with BZ and Sam Baldock was known pre loan window deadline. All efforts to sign a striker should have been made. The cost would have been minimal compared to the prize and the rubbish spouted about FFP conforming is that rubbish. As an old manager said to fail to prepare is to prepare to fail.

I'll give you one thing, you certainly remain stubborn in the face of evidence that is right in front of your nose. I'll say it again. We are the joint third highest scorers in the division. Scoring has not been our problem. Burnley got 63 admittedly but most of those have been against teams in the bottom 10. No one else is close to that.

But go on, humour us, who would you have signed, how much would you have paid and how would you have ensured they came here?
 


chaileyjem

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All efforts to sign a striker should have been made.


And how do you know they weren't. No secret that club tried to land Murray but couldn't
Perhaps they learnt the lesson that from the meagre options available in loan window that we could a) guarantee game time to b) would have strengthened our options that no deal was worthwile. Are you convinced otherwise ? Do you admit the options aside from Murray were probably limited ?
 
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perseus

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I don't think he can. I believe he knows he has to conserve what energy he does have for when it can make a difference.

Second striker involves running around a lot. With our bunch we can rotate the role even in a single match. (Sevilla showed how to do it in the pre-seson friendly.)

I think we have five second stikers. Six if March is fit. If we could combine the various merits all into one player, he woud be very good. As it they are much of a likeness in ability, all having strengths and weaknesses.

IF Lualua could run into space he woud be the best. If Baldock could shoot he would be the best. If Knockaert had a fraction more pace he would be the best. Skalak is a bit unknown.
 


El Presidente

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As an aside, and it may have been mentioned elsewhere but I was too busy being drunk on Saturday night, wasn't Hemed absolutely tremendous on Saturday?

Agreed, his hold up play, lay offs and linkage were superb.

He struggles to win much against mountainous centre halves, but we should be playing more to his feet to bring out his best qualities.
 


El Presidente

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It's just as well that he's back in the building

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BensGrandad

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I'll give you one thing, you certainly remain stubborn in the face of evidence that is right in front of your nose. I'll say it again. We are the joint third highest scorers in the division. Scoring has not been our problem. Burnley got 63 admittedly but most of those have been against teams in the bottom 10. No one else is close to that.

But go on, humour us, who would you have signed, how much would you have paid and how would you have ensured they came here?

If you are conceeding goals you have 2 choices either tighten up and stop conceeding so many or get the strikers to score more had we done either we would be nearer automatic than we are. The obvious man to have brought in was GM with an agreement to purchase in the summer if we got promoted. Money talks and had we offered enough Howe would have allowed a loan. Whatever the cost 1 or even 2 million is insignificant compared to a minimum of £100m for promotion, even if relegated after 1 season. I am sure there were others available at Premier clubs like Chelsea, Tottenham and Arsenal who need games, and that is the job of the recruitment team to identify them if needed, but it appears they were deemed not needed. Once again fail to prepare is to prepare to fail. Just a couple of names Peter Crouch., Gabby Agbonlahor neither were playing for their clubs on loan deadline day.
 
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Guinness Boy

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If you are conceeding goals you have 2 choices either tighten up and stop conceeding so many or get the strikers to score more had we done either we would be nearer automatic than we are. The obvious man to have brought in was GM with an agreement to purchase in the summer if we got promoted. Money talks and had we offered enough Howe would have allowed a loan. Whatever the cost 1 or even 2 million is insignificant compared to a minimum of £100m for promotion, even if relegated after 1 season. I am sure there were others available at Premier clubs like Chelsea, Tottenham and Arsenal who need games, and that is the job of the recruitment team to identify them if needed, but it appears they were deemed not needed. Once again fail to prepare is to prepare to fail. Just 1 other name Peter Crouch.

Can you name the ones who went to other Championship clubs?
 








BensGrandad

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You'll recall this very situation a few years back and the answer was ....
Adam Virgo !!

I think we're a long way from that situation now, don't you agree?

The entire situation is different then we had a chairman with no money whose ambition was survival we now have a chairman who could afford the money to get us to the premier and has fingers in enough companies to circumvent FFP. Also we dont have an Adam Virgo in the background to try it.
 


El Presidente

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Why does that matter? Are we not capable of making our own approaches, howver unlikely they may be.

How do you we didn't?

Approaches were made, you only have to look at the comments made by CH to realise that.

Those approaches were rejected. Reading paid a £2.5 million loan fee for a striker this season, and look where it's got them.

The Albion are (I suspect) going to announce record losses for this season, given the signings of Hunemeier, Manu, Murphy, Knockaert and Skilak all for million pound plus amounts, along with re-signing Sir Bob of Z and rejecting Fulham's £5.5 million bid for Dunk by making him an extremely wealthy young man via a new contract. So they have invested heavily this season already.
 










BensGrandad

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Not at all I have never advocated spending TB money but we are in the best position that we have been and likely to be for another couple of seasons to get to the Premier and it would be foolish to miss out for the lack of 2 loan signings. 1 to cover Bong when we were on such a super run and to not cover a striker for the run in knowing 2 of our main strikers are injury prone and likely to miss games.
 


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