But most Scots wanted and want to remain in the UK.Sounds like they may as well be properly independent then? Why are we all so worried about it. Then they can take the blame/credit for whatever happens.
But most Scots wanted and want to remain in the UK.Sounds like they may as well be properly independent then? Why are we all so worried about it. Then they can take the blame/credit for whatever happens.
Eh, I thought there was already a peoples republic of Brightonia ?but to pretend that somehow there is no more solid basis for the independence of Scotland than there is for Brighton is just...well...silly
You mean those stuck in a time wrap in the big cities up there, still harking back too loyalist ideology.But most Scots wanted and want to remain in the UK.
Why is that? Other nations are self-sustaining with smaller populations?The UK`s population is 67.5m of which Scotland represents only 5.5m of that , it would litterally be impossible for them to become self sustaining
I know. I try not to get sucked into these debates, but don't always succeed.I thought you were out .
Lively thread isn't is!
If you take into account the old - the infirm - too young or retired the workforce can`t generate enough capital to pay the billsWhy is that? Other nations are self-sustaining with smaller populations?
agree, pragmatically we're probably better off without them, less subsidy to them would mean more money in England. sad though as histroically we have done so much together.Sounds like they may as well be properly independent then? Why are we all so worried about it. Then they can take the blame/credit for whatever happens.
I imagine they'd try and tempt big organisations with a lower tax rate. Would Ireland be a good country to compare to?If you take into account the old - the infirm - too young or retired the workforce can`t generate enough capital to pay the bills
Without specifics of which other small nations i am not qualified to give an answer .
If you were a big organisation would you look to bolster an economy that has just cut of it`s own subsidies in order to achieve Independence ? . Ireland are one of the wealthiest countries in Europe .I imagine they'd try and tempt big organisations with a lower tax rate. Would Ireland be a good country to compare to?
The answer is that Scotland would seek vast EU grants.If you take into account the old - the infirm - too young or retired the workforce can`t generate enough capital to pay the bills
Without specifics of which other small nations i am not qualified to give an answer .
If you're a big organisation, you look out for yourself, you don't worry about what it does for the country's economy.If you were a big organisation would you look to bolster an economy that has just cut of it`s own subsidies in order to achieve Independence ?
And why is that?Ireland are one of the wealthiest countries in Europe .
So if i read this correctly the SNP would cut of their subsidies from Westminster only to put out their hand for grants from the EU , and turn down investment from outside multinationals , that`s messed up .The answer is that Scotland would seek vast EU grants.
Fringe nations such as Portugal and Ireland did. Ireland also became a tax haven for huge US multinationals wanting to avoid fair rates of corporation tax on their EU area profits eg Dell and Apple. The SNP pride themselves on being socialist, how would that fit philosophically?
That's a very direct way of putting it, but true .So if i read this correctly the SNP would cut of their subsidies from Westminster only to put out their hand for grants from the EU , and turn down investment from outside multinationals , that`s messed up .
Surely you would want a secure base of operations , especially as you would be relying on the local workforce to some extent .If you're a big organisation, you look out for yourself, you don't worry about what it does for the country's economy.
And why is that?
Well I'm no fan of breaking up the UK. But if you recall the Scots were promised by a Tory government to vote NO stay to stay in the EU. Within months of NO vote secured, they embarked on their EU referendum journey to try and save their own party, this having failed to secure a majority government in a generation.The Scottish people voted against independence , at that point her job was to respect the Scottish people and the democratic procedure , she wanted another vote because her name would forever be in the history of Scotland . In my opinion that is the very definition of narcissism .
You asked the rhetorical question whether Brightonians should get independence like the Scots because like the Scots they don't get the government they voted for.What? No, I'm equating people getting a government they didn't vote for, with other people who get a government they didn't vote for. What's that got to do with history and culture?
You seem to have misread the posts. I made no comment on the people of Brighton wanting independence, we weren't talking about independence, we were talking about people being ruled by a government they didn't vote for. The Scottish people, in case you've forgotten, voted against independence.
They did but that was two years before the Brexit referendum. The Scots feel as though they've been duped as they were told the only way they could be part of the EU was to remain in the UK. Scotland's vote in 2016 was very much to Remain in the EU.What? No, I'm equating people getting a government they didn't vote for, with other people who get a government they didn't vote for. What's that got to do with history and culture?
You seem to have misread the posts. I made no comment on the people of Brighton wanting independence, we weren't talking about independence, we were talking about people being ruled by a government they didn't vote for. The Scottish people, in case you've forgotten, voted against independence.