Nick Clegg Looks to be Honourable!

[Danny-Boy]

Christ that idiot Cameron running this country :shudder: Last one out turn off the lights, oh no actually don't bother, that idiot Hove Born and Bred will be staying behind.

:US:

Maybe Jim Davidson will sell you his condi in Dubai now...

 

[Jackthelad]

As for Clegg, he should form an alliance with whomever is closest to his own ideals and policies. That would show integrity.

Ditto.

Lib Dems should do the deal with labour I just wish Brown would step down and Miliband take over, I can't see Lib dem doing a deal with Brown in charge. It would be great if the reform was passed it might well be the Tories RIP for ever which would be blooming marvellous

 

[pork pie]

Things would be so much easier if we had an English only Parliment - Conservatives 297, Labour 191, Libs 43, Greens 1. Well, that is pretty clear what the English want.

If there is any electoral reform to be agreed, it MUST include English MPs only votes on English matters.

 

[Danny-Boy]

Mandelson Milliband Balls & Adonis. Sex Solicitors.

I wouldn't wonder if Mandy has been done for soliciting sometime in the past...you should be worried if he starts coming to Albion games, he might think of ditching a Brazilian and wandering further south...

 

[pork pie]

Oh dear, oh dear!

"And it has now emerged Nick Clegg also met Gordon Brown in private on Monday before a meeting with David Cameron."

What an arsehole!

 

[beorhthelm]

"And it has now emerged Nick Clegg also met Gordon Brown in private on Monday before a meeting with David Cameron."

What an arsehole!

why? best to meet now and see what he has to say, rather than leave it.

 

[pork pie]

why? best to meet now and see what he has to say, rather than leave it.

Best he let the jock cu nt stew and form a government with the winners of the election, as he said he would.

 

[Simster]

Best he let the jock cu nt stew and form a government with the winners of the election, as he said he would.

Isn't that what he's trying to do?

But if there are irreconcilable differences, he's got to explore other avenues surely? I don't really get where your anger comes from.

 

[pork pie]

Isn't that what he's trying to do?

But if there are irreconcilable differences, he's got to explore other avenues surely? I don't really get where your anger comes from.

Because Gordon Brown and his cronies have been soundly (but unfortunately not soundly enough!) beaten, and is only looking at being propped-up, yet again, by the jocks and taffs.

 

[Simster]

Because Gordon Brown and his cronies have been soundly (but unfortunately not soundly enough!) beaten, and is only looking at being propped-up, yet again, by the jocks and taffs.

Imagine what it must have been like being a jock or a taff and having to put up with the Tories for 17 years.

Secondly, the fact is that a Con Lib alliance is still the most likely, but if the Tories are too far apart from EVERY other party to form an alliance with them, whose fault is that?

I guess that's democracy for you. For what it's worth, I can't see Brown staying on if there does have to be a cobbled together left-of-centre alliance running the country. None of the other parties in the coalition would have it.

 

[SULLY COULDNT SHOOT]

Things would be so much easier if we had an English only Parliment - Conservatives 297, Labour 191, Libs 43, Greens 1. Well, that is pretty clear what the English want.

If there is any electoral reform to be agreed, it MUST include English MPs only votes on English matters.

This can only happen if Scotland, Northern Ireland and wales are granted indpendence.... not even the Tories want that.

 

[Gwylan]

This can only happen if Scotland, Northern Ireland and wales are granted indpendence.... not even the Tories want that.

As I pointed out on another thread, all this talk about the Tories being in power if it were down to English votes rather ignores the fact that they're the most pro-Union of the three main parties.

 

[pork pie]

As I pointed out on another thread, all this talk about the Tories being in power if it were down to English votes rather ignores the fact that they're the most pro-Union of the three main parties.

Maybe we have reached the point where the English need to tell the hangers-on to just f*** off and let us move forward without them being a mill stone around our necks. If we can only have the Governmant we need without them - then so be it!

 

[BensGrandad]

I can never understand why the Scots and Welsh should be able to vote in the election to run their country and also to run the UK. I know that they are members of the UK but they are the ones who want to be self governing so let them run themselves and also provide their own finance from the taxes that they raise.

 

[pork pie]

I can never understand why the Scots and Welsh should be able to vote in the election to run their country and also to run the UK. I know that they are members of the UK but they are the ones who want to be self governing so let them run themselves and also provide their own finance from the taxes that they raise.

 

[Pavilionaire]

My fear is that the Tories dupe Clegg into a temporary Alliance with an empty promise of a vote on electoral reform, then start to govern as if they had got their majority in the first place.

The former Tory Deputy Chairman Michael Dobbs was on the radio this morning basically saying electoral reform should take a back seat whilst the crisis in our domestic and EU economy is addressed. The problem is the crisis is SO big that "justification" for inactivity could be rolled out for at least 5 years, i.e. the life of a parliament if necessary.

You can see how this will pan out - we're still waiting for an EU referendum from Labour that it now looks like we won't ever get, and I think we'll get the same re the Tories and Electoral Reform.

 

[Gwylan]

I can never understand why the Scots and Welsh should be able to vote in the election to run their country and also to run the UK. I know that they are members of the UK but they are the ones who want to be self governing so let them run themselves and also provide their own finance from the taxes that they raise.

They don't want to be self-governing though- the only referenda on the issues didn't result in a Yes vote (although the Scotland one was a bit of a fudge). A proposal for another referendum in Scotland was defeated by the combined forces of the Labour, Lib Dem and Conservative parties.

 

[The Large One]

My fear is that the Tories dupe Clegg into a temporary Alliance with an empty promise of a vote on electoral reform, then start to govern as if they had got their majority in the first place.

In which case, the Tories would lose the support of the LibDems, operate as a minority government, and lose the various Commons votes.

 

[The Large One]

Maybe we have reached the point where the English need to tell the hangers-on to just f*** off and let us move forward without them being a mill stone around our necks. If we can only have the Governmant we need without them - then so be it!

Which goes flatly against one of the core values of the Conservative Party.

 

[Pavilionaire]

In which case, the Tories would lose the support of the LibDems, operate as a minority government, and lose the various Commons votes.

Don't discount the Celtic Alliance - totaly plausible "grants for votes" deal to be had there.

The majority of Tories will feel that if they get their man into No.10 then the Lib Dems can feck off, and similarly any sort deal that avoids electoral reform is worth doing.

The economy's in such a mess the Tories can delay anything else for as long as they want on the grounds it's not essential / in the nation's short-term interest / diverting attention from the financial crisis that threatens to envelop us all.