Publius Ovidius
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Amazing, but they are all being well and truly shafted by the LEA and Brighton and Hove Unitary Authority.
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mY wIFE THE RABID TORY IS ON STRIKE TODAY
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Publius Ovidius
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long story, but basically they have been offered a one off 400 squids to forgoe 6 weeks holiday pay, given an extra £34 a year pay increase ( which is actually part of the annual award anyway) and told they must work a week for nothing to cover teachers non contact time.
they are amongst the lowest paid people in the schools, but they are an easy target to hammer, so they are being hammered.
And this from a Labour Government who champions the lower paid workers of society.
I will never ever ever vote for this shower again
BTW My wife and others who do "dinner duties" are coming in to cover dinner hours so the school does not have to close.
You would think from the propoganda put about by the council that they were personally putting your children's education at risk abd they were all low life scum.
BTW2 the School headmistress, and the Governors are all in favour of their action
they are amongst the lowest paid people in the schools, but they are an easy target to hammer, so they are being hammered.
And this from a Labour Government who champions the lower paid workers of society.
I will never ever ever vote for this shower again
BTW My wife and others who do "dinner duties" are coming in to cover dinner hours so the school does not have to close.
You would think from the propoganda put about by the council that they were personally putting your children's education at risk abd they were all low life scum.
BTW2 the School headmistress, and the Governors are all in favour of their action
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Rangdo
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My mums on strike too. She's a classroom assistant/dinner lady. Stick it to the man 
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
As long as "dinner duties" are not affected at home though.
Right guys ?
Right guys ?
Rangdo
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Easy 10 said:As long as "dinner duties" are not affected at home though.
Right guys ?
If they're not working they can use their time constructively in the kitchen at home.
34064 Fighter Command
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Exploiting low paid casual labour, sounds like a perfectly good Tory policy to me, just ask Arthur Scargill about it !
Blackadder
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dave the gaffer said:
For some reason, I thought you were a Tory Dave!
Haven't you praised Maggy Thatch in previous posts?
Meade's Ball
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ChapmansThe Saviour said:
If your school dinners were anything like mine, they'll think you're ordering the main course.
Publius Ovidius
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No Buzza...I am a rabid Commie i am afraid!
Goes down really well at the capitalist company I work for
Goes down really well at the capitalist company I work for
The Large One
Who's Next?
Don't tak to me about the LEA. Oh, you just have. Powermongers the lot of them, especially the senior education officers, plus one particular councillor (no names, but Lord Bracknell will know where my pissed-offedness lies).
Highfields Seagull
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.Agrus Article
This is the argus article. The attitude of some of the parents stinks if you ask me. They go on about teaching assistants being highly valued members of staff, then lay into them for striking against more responsibilities for less pay.
Ms Dunstall said: "I totally agree with them going on strike but I will be invoicing the school and the unions for the costs I incur.
"The work the teaching assistants do is brilliant and they are not given the recognition they deserve.
"But they have got another day off while I am being penalised. The schools have enough teacher training days as it is.
Stupid cow - I'm sure the teaching assistants have gone on strike for a couple of days off. And teacher training days are there for a reason - to keep teachers updated with the latest skills and techniques to give a better education to your f***ing sprogs.
Parent Jill Blackwell, of Gordon Road, Brighton, said: "Classroom assistants used to be a valued group of people who commanded respect from children and parents alike but not any more.
"Their selfish attitude in calling this two-day strike has ended that respect with a stroke.
"My children feel badly let down that their education is being disrupted in this way and this situation has been created by the very people they have learnt to trust."
So your children aren't thinking "great, two days off school", f***ing unbelievable.
Sorry, but this article really pissed me off
This is the argus article. The attitude of some of the parents stinks if you ask me. They go on about teaching assistants being highly valued members of staff, then lay into them for striking against more responsibilities for less pay.
Ms Dunstall said: "I totally agree with them going on strike but I will be invoicing the school and the unions for the costs I incur.
"The work the teaching assistants do is brilliant and they are not given the recognition they deserve.
"But they have got another day off while I am being penalised. The schools have enough teacher training days as it is.
Stupid cow - I'm sure the teaching assistants have gone on strike for a couple of days off. And teacher training days are there for a reason - to keep teachers updated with the latest skills and techniques to give a better education to your f***ing sprogs.
Parent Jill Blackwell, of Gordon Road, Brighton, said: "Classroom assistants used to be a valued group of people who commanded respect from children and parents alike but not any more.
"Their selfish attitude in calling this two-day strike has ended that respect with a stroke.
"My children feel badly let down that their education is being disrupted in this way and this situation has been created by the very people they have learnt to trust."
So your children aren't thinking "great, two days off school", f***ing unbelievable.
Sorry, but this article really pissed me off
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Publius Ovidius
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Parent Jill Blackwell, of Gordon Road, Brighton, said: "Classroom assistants used to be a valued group of people who commanded respect from children and parents alike but not any more.
"Their selfish attitude in calling this two-day strike has ended that respect with a stroke.
"My children feel badly let down that their education is being disrupted in this way and this situation has been created by the very people they have learnt to trust."
Ok then Ms Blackwell..if you employer decided to completely change your working hours without prior consultation, gives you a derisory £34 quid a year ( 34 / 40 week / 15 hours a week = 0.056p increase) when you only earn something like £6 an hour anyway and then says oh by the way, you have to cover out of hours and school meetings of 1 week without getting paid for it, ie £6 x 15 hours = £90 there fore a net loss of £56 a year before tax
I take it you will say...ok then take MY f***ing MONEY THEN
If these people were on 25k a year or a decent wage, then ok, the sysmpathy may not be as great, but some of my wifes colleagues a have other jobs to make ends meet.
THIS COUNTRY'S GOVERNMENT BE IT TORY OR LABOUR IS GREAT AT ALLOWING TAX LAWS THAT ALLOW COMPANIED TO GET AWAY WITH NOT PAYING VAST AMOUNTS OF VAT AND TAX, BUT WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THE LITTLE PEOPLE THEY DONT GIVE A f***.
"Their selfish attitude in calling this two-day strike has ended that respect with a stroke.
"My children feel badly let down that their education is being disrupted in this way and this situation has been created by the very people they have learnt to trust."
Ok then Ms Blackwell..if you employer decided to completely change your working hours without prior consultation, gives you a derisory £34 quid a year ( 34 / 40 week / 15 hours a week = 0.056p increase) when you only earn something like £6 an hour anyway and then says oh by the way, you have to cover out of hours and school meetings of 1 week without getting paid for it, ie £6 x 15 hours = £90 there fore a net loss of £56 a year before tax
I take it you will say...ok then take MY f***ing MONEY THEN
If these people were on 25k a year or a decent wage, then ok, the sysmpathy may not be as great, but some of my wifes colleagues a have other jobs to make ends meet.
THIS COUNTRY'S GOVERNMENT BE IT TORY OR LABOUR IS GREAT AT ALLOWING TAX LAWS THAT ALLOW COMPANIED TO GET AWAY WITH NOT PAYING VAST AMOUNTS OF VAT AND TAX, BUT WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THE LITTLE PEOPLE THEY DONT GIVE A f***.
attila
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Good luck to them.
Presumably if your wife is a rabid Tory she now votes Labour.
Tony Blair MP - I'm Tory plan B
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Presumably if your wife is a rabid Tory she now votes Labour.
Tony Blair MP - I'm Tory plan B
my favourite anagram
Blackadder
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dave the gaffer said:No Buzza...I am a rabid Commie i am afraid!
Goes down really well at the capitalist company I work for
Nothing wrong with that! I used to be very left wing until my taxes went up!
Good luck to Teaching Assistants! They are undervalued!
Publius Ovidius
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i tried once to get her to vote for our local socialist(remember them?) unfortunately thatcherism runs deep
PRESS RELEASE ISSUED BY B&H EARLIER THIS WEEK
For those interested in the situation....
Council urges unions to call off strike
Union officials are being urged to call off a threatened strike by Brighton & Hove’s teaching assistants next week and to stop misleading the public about the dispute. The majority of local schools could close on Thursday and Friday.
Council Chief Executive Alan McCarthy said: ‘We know that feelings are running high, and we all agree that our teaching assistants do a brilliant job, in special schools and mainstream schools. But we do not believe that inconveniencing thousands of parents, forcing them to take time off work to look after their children, will solve anything. Many staff from elsewhere in the council, and in offices and shops across the city, will have huge problems with childcare. We have offered independent arbitration through ACAS. The unions have flatly refused it.
‘Yet under proposals from the council most of our teaching assistants would earn between £7.23 and £9.90 per hour.*
‘The total wage bill for the city’s 1,000 or so teaching assistants over the next three years will increase from £8.8m to £10.5m. That means putting an extra 21 per cent into teaching assistants’ pay.’
The council has made clear that information circulated by the trade union Unison about new pay rates is distorted and misleading. For instance a union newsletter released last week (November 18) claimed that ALL assistants on level B would only receive a pay rise of £26 a year.
Human Resources Director Mark Lamb said: “There are over 500 teaching assistants on that grade. Over 100 will get increases of £200 a year or more, rising to £725. A further 60 will get over £100 a year. About a third of assistants will get rises between 5 and 30 per cent.
“It is true that many will get smaller rises. But as union officials know this whole process began a year ago as an attempt to get a fair career structure with promotion opportunities for all our teaching assistants – part of the complicated ‘Single Status’ project. Teaching Assistants do a brilliant job, but they are paid differently and have different terms and conditions in different schools. We are trying to create a level playing field, with real career opportunities. It was never meant to be an across-the-board pay rise, but it has been turned into a classic pay dispute.”
Unions also claimed the average teaching assistant earns £9000 a year. Mr Lamb said: “They fail to point out that the average teaching assistant works around 20 hours a week. So anyone just reading this leaflet is getting a very false view.
“The council is proposing rates of pay equivalent to full-time salaries between £11,316 to £21,033. At the top end this is more than £10 an hour. Part-time assistants will earn a proportion of these sums.”
Again, and contrary to union statements, assistants have not had their working weeks per year cut. Most were previously paid for 49 weeks but worked around 40. The offer proposes they are paid for the weeks they work. However increased pay rates more than compensate for this. It means 90 per cent will literally earn more money, in real terms, each year. The rest will not lose any money.
GMB and Unison unions said their members who are teaching assistants will strike on Thursday 25 and Friday 26 November, meaning affected schools will close.
The council has written to all parents today in a letter being delivered through schools. This regrets and apologises for the disruption the strike action will cause, and explains the real position.
Council Leader Ken Bodfish added: “The council has never been in any doubt about the huge value of the work our teaching assistants do. That is why we are offering to pay them more than their counterparts in East or West Sussex. The fact unions rejected arbitration by ACAS makes me question the motivation of the campaign by union officials – especially as they’re ignoring East and West Sussex where teaching assistants will actually earn less.”
* Hourly rates for Tas: The majority would earn between £7.23 and £9.90 an hour.
A few would earn even more – up to £10.90 per hour, and those at the lowest rate would start at £5.88 per hour.
No teaching assistants risk losing money under council proposals. Under the new grading system, 90 per cent of them will get pay increases ranging from modest sums to 30 per cent. For the first time, promotion is a possibility. And we will be equalising pay, terms and conditions across all schools – which is the main purpose of this exercise.
For those interested in the situation....
Council urges unions to call off strike
Union officials are being urged to call off a threatened strike by Brighton & Hove’s teaching assistants next week and to stop misleading the public about the dispute. The majority of local schools could close on Thursday and Friday.
Council Chief Executive Alan McCarthy said: ‘We know that feelings are running high, and we all agree that our teaching assistants do a brilliant job, in special schools and mainstream schools. But we do not believe that inconveniencing thousands of parents, forcing them to take time off work to look after their children, will solve anything. Many staff from elsewhere in the council, and in offices and shops across the city, will have huge problems with childcare. We have offered independent arbitration through ACAS. The unions have flatly refused it.
‘Yet under proposals from the council most of our teaching assistants would earn between £7.23 and £9.90 per hour.*
‘The total wage bill for the city’s 1,000 or so teaching assistants over the next three years will increase from £8.8m to £10.5m. That means putting an extra 21 per cent into teaching assistants’ pay.’
The council has made clear that information circulated by the trade union Unison about new pay rates is distorted and misleading. For instance a union newsletter released last week (November 18) claimed that ALL assistants on level B would only receive a pay rise of £26 a year.
Human Resources Director Mark Lamb said: “There are over 500 teaching assistants on that grade. Over 100 will get increases of £200 a year or more, rising to £725. A further 60 will get over £100 a year. About a third of assistants will get rises between 5 and 30 per cent.
“It is true that many will get smaller rises. But as union officials know this whole process began a year ago as an attempt to get a fair career structure with promotion opportunities for all our teaching assistants – part of the complicated ‘Single Status’ project. Teaching Assistants do a brilliant job, but they are paid differently and have different terms and conditions in different schools. We are trying to create a level playing field, with real career opportunities. It was never meant to be an across-the-board pay rise, but it has been turned into a classic pay dispute.”
Unions also claimed the average teaching assistant earns £9000 a year. Mr Lamb said: “They fail to point out that the average teaching assistant works around 20 hours a week. So anyone just reading this leaflet is getting a very false view.
“The council is proposing rates of pay equivalent to full-time salaries between £11,316 to £21,033. At the top end this is more than £10 an hour. Part-time assistants will earn a proportion of these sums.”
Again, and contrary to union statements, assistants have not had their working weeks per year cut. Most were previously paid for 49 weeks but worked around 40. The offer proposes they are paid for the weeks they work. However increased pay rates more than compensate for this. It means 90 per cent will literally earn more money, in real terms, each year. The rest will not lose any money.
GMB and Unison unions said their members who are teaching assistants will strike on Thursday 25 and Friday 26 November, meaning affected schools will close.
The council has written to all parents today in a letter being delivered through schools. This regrets and apologises for the disruption the strike action will cause, and explains the real position.
Council Leader Ken Bodfish added: “The council has never been in any doubt about the huge value of the work our teaching assistants do. That is why we are offering to pay them more than their counterparts in East or West Sussex. The fact unions rejected arbitration by ACAS makes me question the motivation of the campaign by union officials – especially as they’re ignoring East and West Sussex where teaching assistants will actually earn less.”
* Hourly rates for Tas: The majority would earn between £7.23 and £9.90 an hour.
A few would earn even more – up to £10.90 per hour, and those at the lowest rate would start at £5.88 per hour.
No teaching assistants risk losing money under council proposals. Under the new grading system, 90 per cent of them will get pay increases ranging from modest sums to 30 per cent. For the first time, promotion is a possibility. And we will be equalising pay, terms and conditions across all schools – which is the main purpose of this exercise.