How can you negotiate with a death cult? Their stated intention is to kill all the Jews
Presumably, you're referring to Hamas when you say "death cult". How do you explain the lack of progress in the years prior to Hamas' rise to prominence?
How can you negotiate with a death cult? Their stated intention is to kill all the Jews
The Palestinians' previous leaders were offered many & various proposals for piece & 2 state solutions from 1948 onwards. They turned every single one down & continued the current policy of constant shelling (100s of indiscriminate rockets daily, for years. Many of which miss & kill their own citizens - weirdly included in the numbers of Palestinians lost in the 'war') & random murders in Israel. Celebrated with dancing & distribution of candiesPresumably, you're referring to Hamas when you say "death cult". How do you explain the lack of progress in the years prior to Hamas' rise to prominence?
f***ing savages (no apology for either word)Hamas Hostage Shani Louk Beheaded After She Was Paraded Naked Through Streets of Gaza, Israeli President Says
Israeli-German hostage Shani Louk was beheaded by Hamas after being kidnapped from a music festival and then paraded through the streets of Gaza by terrorists on Oct. 7, Israel's president says.themessenger.com
Hamas Hostage Shani Louk Beheaded After She Was Paraded Naked Through Streets of Gaza, Israeli President Says
Israeli-German hostage Shani Louk was beheaded by Hamas after being kidnapped from a music festival and then paraded through the streets of Gaza by terrorists on Oct. 7, Israel's president says.themessenger.com
That is a radical Jihadist ideology but AFAIK, while apparently in Hamas’ charter, that is not the immediate aim in this war/the 10/7 attack, nor has it been openly articulated by the Hamas‘ leadership in current dialogues with Jordan/Qatar‘s efforts to negotiate a ceasefire ( I may be wrong so sources if so)How can you negotiate with a death cult? Their stated intention is to kill all the Jews
The Palestinians' previous leaders were offered many & various proposals for piece & 2 state solutions from 1948 onwards. They turned every single one down & continued the current policy of constant shelling (100s of indiscriminate rockets daily, for years. Many of which miss & kill their own citizens - weirdly included in the numbers of Palestinians lost in the 'war') & random murders in Israel. Celebrated with dancing & distribution of candies
I simply refer you back to earlier posts on the thread that have presented a rather less biased version of history- there has been indiscriminate violence on both sides in this conflict - in particular see my earlier posts relating to the Oslo Accords, the willingness of Palestinians to work for peace and why they failed to secure peace. Also look again at Trump’s Peace Plan and why that would never have been acceptable.The Palestinians' previous leaders were offered many & various proposals for piece & 2 state solutions from 1948 onwards. They turned every single one down & continued the current policy of constant shelling (100s of indiscriminate rockets daily, for years. Many of which miss & kill their own citizens - weirdly included in the numbers of Palestinians lost in the 'war') & random murders in Israel. Celebrated with dancing & distribution of candies
The Palestinians' previous leaders were offered many & various proposals for piece & 2 state solutions from 1948 onwards. They turned every single one down & continued the current policy of constant shelling (100s of indiscriminate rockets daily, for years. Many of which miss & kill their own citizens - weirdly included in the numbers of Palestinians lost in the 'war') & random murders in Israel. Celebrated with dancing & distribution of candies
Because they're quoted as if they were killed by IsraelWould you like to explain carefully why those innocent people should somehow NOT be 'included in the numbers lost in the war'?
Why did those presumably blameless people not 'count'?
It's pointless attempting to put a reasoned view over when all you get is statements without any factual evidence in return. The Israeli's had terrorists in 1947 who effectively changed the landscape.This just isn't true.
In 1948 the UN adopted a resolution calling for the right to return of Palestinian refugees. This was an issue that the UN Mediator for Palestine had been quite vocal about before he was murdered by Zionist terrorists. Even before it was adopted, Ben Gurion voiced his opposition to their return. His comments were echoed by the PM in the 90s, who stated that it will never happen and the only so-called right to return is that of the Jews to Israel.
If they will not acknowledge the Nakba, dismiss the right to return, and illegally build new settlements, how is a 2-state solution possible? I'm sure you know that the current government is not in favour.
The PLO first indicated they would be willing to accept a 2-state solution in the 70s. Since then numerous UN Resolutions have been adopted in support of this, based on the pre-67 borders. Each one has been blocked by the US.
The Oslo accords in the 90s suggested progress might be made but then far-right Israelis murdered their Prime Minister.
Oh I see. So this isn't about the senseless loss of thousands of young lives then? Its only about point scoring.Because they're quoted as if they were killed by Israel
So Israel is not responsible for the death of innocent Palestinians?Because they're quoted as if they were killed by Israel
It's pointless attempting to put a reasoned view over when all you get is statements without any factual evidence in return. The Israeli's had terrorists in 1947 who effectively changed the landscape.
Exactly why they’ve been on my ignore list for some time now!I never put anyone on ignore and like to hear a range of views but I must say @aolstudios 's contributions are a little wearing. Just baseless claims followed by laughter emojis when called out.
Wow.Oh I see. So this isn't about the senseless loss of thousands of young lives then? Its only about point scoring.
I vote we try pirates again. They didn't get a fair crack of the whip last time.
Interesting that Pirates were mentioned by the Enoch Powell impersonator, since 'The West' was basically built on piracy.I vote we try pirates again. They didn't get a fair crack of the whip last time.
Certainly not those I'm talking about. NoSo Israel is not responsible for the death of innocent Palestinians?
No, sorry - that is absolutely not what you wrote at all.Wow.
Again.
A tiny part of a reasonable length post. My point was Israel is blamed for the senseless loss of thousands of people killed by Hamas' indiscriminate bombing.
Who's point scoring?
Many of which miss & kill their own citizens - weirdly included in the numbers of Palestinians lost in the 'war'
Hamas will always be there. They go, more extremism will follow, it is a viscious cycle. But do agree with what you are saying, to some degree
Tempting but no. I'll hold back this time.You’ve only just realised that - I have had that on just about all my posts that have responded directly to him since he first joined in the thread on 7 October - followed by more laughter emojis for anyone who contradicts me instead of engaging in sensible discussion.
Best to ignore them imo.
(Queue laughter…)