[Politics] Marcus Rashford v The Spectator

[B-right-on]

I really dislike what has happened to this country in recent years with this ridiculous right left divide we now have.

During the Euro’s I went to a pub to watch the England Scotland game with some ‘mates’ I haven’t seen for ages and certainly haven’t watched an England game with for years, definitely before Brexit. Anyway, I won’t be doing it again. Any opportunity they were slagging Rashford off, calling him ‘lunchbox’ (not in the way Linford Christie used to be referred to by it!) and just taking the piss out of him constantly. Alongside the usual other woke, snowflake insults they casually chuck out.

Seriously, why are the right wing so threatened by somebody just trying to do good?! It’s mental.

I consider myself right wing. I have voted Tory all my life and consider Corbyn the anti - Christ. Also voted for Brexit and I would again.

I'm happily married for the last 25 and a half years to my mixed race wife and we have a mixed race daughter. My West Indies born MIL married a 'white' man, only one of her siblings who did (wife born in the West Indies too) . All others married black men /women so all my wife's cousins and aunties /uncles are black and they are very much my family.

My best mate is mixed race.

So left wing or right wing, both have w@nkers in them.

 

[Creaky]

Lots of comments and opinions based on an article that hasn't yet been published

Marcus Rashford's Tweet has probably ensured an increased readership of the next issue of the Spectator and at the very least has increased its exposure.

 

[clapham_gull]

Marcus Rashford's Tweet has probably ensured an increased readership of the next issue of the Spectator

I doubt it to be honest.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Lots of comments and opinions based on an article that hasn't yet been published

Marcus Rashford's Tweet has probably ensured an increased readership of the next issue of the Spectator and at the very least has increased its exposure.

Really? I was neutral about Speccy before. Now I'm an opponent. No money will be made by them from me

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Lots of comments and opinions based on an article that hasn't yet been published

Marcus Rashford's Tweet has probably ensured an increased readership of the next issue of the Spectator and at the very least has increased its exposure.

MR has been told the article is criticising him for going into commercial partnerships for his charity work. If anyone really feels they have to buy a copy just to read spiteful criticism like that, I feel sorry for them.
I somehow doubt the Spectator will sell many extra copies, but their reputation is sullied.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

What a silly Culture War battle for the Spectator to choose to fight.

Only 1 winner and it is not them in this case.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

 

[vegster]

I really dislike what has happened to this country in recent years with this ridiculous right left divide we now have.

During the Euro’s I went to a pub to watch the England Scotland game with some ‘mates’ I haven’t seen for ages and certainly haven’t watched an England game with for years, definitely before Brexit. Anyway, I won’t be doing it again. Any opportunity they were slagging Rashford off, calling him ‘lunchbox’ (not in the way Linford Christie used to be referred to by it!) and just taking the piss out of him constantly. Alongside the usual other woke, snowflake insults they casually chuck out.

Seriously, why are the right wing so threatened by somebody just trying to do good?! It’s mental.

They are threatened because they don't like any sort of change in the natural order of things. If a footballer starts to succeed at helping social issues it's shaming the government so he has to be cut down to size somehow, so this is sadly, not unexpected.
When Rushford first campaigned for that summer extension of Free School Meals I spoke about it with a colleague and was stunned by the response..he said " If you give more money or free school meals it just let's the parents spend more on booze and drugs and flat screen TV's " I looked at him a bit shocked and said ' You're joking right? "

"No" he said " these are well known facts "

I could not believe that a chap I thought quite sensible could not genuinely understand the issue and could get it so wrong AND go Daily Mail like that... They walk amongst us though.

Edit: Additionally, if this attack on Rushford happens it's another handy little distraction from the bigger issues about our lying, corrupt government.

 

[Billy the Fish]

View attachment 138832

Surely that % can't be right, are they suggesting that he's now heavily in debt?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Surely that % can't be right, are they suggesting that he's now heavily in debt?

No, it's donations. That means how much he has fund raised with his partnerships.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Those tweets from Rashford

[tweet]1417560450393329666[/tweet]

[tweet]1417560602374021121[/tweet]

[tweet]1417560731579469830[/tweet]

[tweet]1417560891109822465[/tweet]

 

[Gwylan]

What a silly Culture War battle for the Spectator to choose to fight.

Only 1 winner and it is not them in this case.

I suspect that it was an article commissioned a few weeks ago, when the talk was of 'woke' footballers and taking the knee. Things have moved on since then and it looks it could be a completely misguided article.

It may not be printed, of course, Fraser Nelson may have realised that, as you say, there's only going to be one winner here. Just because an article has been researched or written, there's no guarantee it will be published

 

[father_and_son]

Those tweets from Rashford

[tweet]1417560450393329666[/tweet]

[tweet]1417560602374021121[/tweet]

[tweet]1417560731579469830[/tweet]

[tweet]1417560891109822465[/tweet]

Must have been a really well researched article by the Spectator because it genuinely is hard to fault the guy. Even losing his sh1t on twitter results in a nice polite rebuke to people trying to ruin his reputation!

 

[zefarelly]

It's not aimed at 'ordinary'people though,is it?
It's aimed at elderly right wing Tories who believe that Rashford should tug the forelock and know his place.
They expect a young black man to be either a drug dealer involved in inner city crime,or a feckless work shy layabout with 4 kids by 4 different women all on benefits.

Rashfords challenging of the Government, his empathy and emotional intelligence has scared them, and they need reassurance that their status quo isn't about to splinter, hence this attempted hatchet job on a fine young man who has proved to be a more effective opposition to this Government than Kier Starmers supine Labour Party.

He scares them.

you missed out 'illegal immmigrant'

 

[Farehamseagull]

I consider myself right wing. I have voted Tory all my life and consider Corbyn the anti - Christ. Also voted for Brexit and I would again.

I'm happily married for the last 25 and a half years to my mixed race wife and we have a mixed race daughter. My West Indies born MIL married a 'white' man, only one of her siblings who did (wife born in the West Indies too) . All others married black men /women so all my wife's cousins and aunties /uncles are black and they are very much my family.

My best mate is mixed race.

So left wing or right wing, both have w@nkers in them.

Oh yes I don't disagree with your last sentence at all.

I'm the opposite - left wing, anti Brexit, Guardian reading snowflake and very woke. A lot of my family and closest friends have always voted Tory and are classically right wing and that's never caused an issue until the last few years.

What surprises me now though is just how viciously divided everything seems these days. These guys I was drinking with at the football, whilst acknowledging they were right wing, Thatcher fans etc and occasionally taking the piss out of the left before, they'd never have come out with the stuff they were that night. I find it all really sad.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Should we club together and buy Mouldy a copy and a box of tissues?


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I fear the tissues may go unused as they tend to use some long words and keep the pictures to a minimum.

 

[KeegansHairPiece]

Those tweets from Rashford

[tweet]1417560450393329666[/tweet]

[tweet]1417560602374021121[/tweet]

[tweet]1417560731579469830[/tweet]

[tweet]1417560891109822465[/tweet]

It's amazing really because the mantra of capitalism and trickle down economics is that success and profits creates jobs and prosperity making it easier to help the vulnerable. I thought this was the basic tenet of the Conservative Party and right of centre thinking.

However, when someone 'doing good' is commercially successful, it's considered 'champagne socialism' - and yet the criticism is the very basis of the politics they believe in? Why shouldn't Rashford be commercially driven as well as helping and promoting good causes, and being active politically to campaign for things he believes in?

Same with Lewis Hamilton in some regards, I don't remember David Beckham getting lots of stick from the press for his commercialism as well as supporting good causes and fronting charity work while courting attention and promoting the world's biggest brands. Hamilton and Rashford on the other hand, how dare they flaunt their success...

 

[Gwylan]

Same with Lewis Hamilton in some regards, I don't remember David Beckham getting lots of stick from the press for his commercialism as well as supporting good causes and fronting charity work while courting attention and promoting the world's biggest brands. Hamilton and Rashford on the other hand, how dare they flaunt their success...

You just know the word 'uppity' is never far from their lips

 

[brightn'ove]

Marcus Rashford has revealed that the Spectator is set to do a hatchet job on him.

Why? It's not going to end well for the Spectator - it's going to lead to bad publicity and a lot of grief for advertisers. I'm not sure what they hope to achieve with it

Because the closeted racists that read it will absolutely love it?

t's amazing really because the mantra of capitalism and trickle down economics is that success and profits creates jobs and prosperity making it easier to help the vulnerable. I thought this was the basic tenet of the Conservative Party and right of centre thinking.

However, when someone 'doing good' is commercially successful, it's considered 'champagne socialism' - and yet the criticism is the very basis of the politics they believe in? Why shouldn't Rashford be commercially driven as well as helping and promoting good causes, and being active politically to campaign for things he believes in?

Absolutely bang on.

 

[redoubtable seagull]

Wealthy young man uses some of his wealth to help others and support social projects.

There’s really not a story here.