Man of the People, Ken...

[Herr Tubthumper]

The Bloke Is Prepared To Beat Up People He Allegedly Loves. He Drinks At Work And Lies About It. And You Think This Is A Fit And Proper Person?

Question - Would You Be So Forgiving If He Were A Tory?

Yawn, and probably not.

 

[The Merry Prankster]

He's not perfect by any stretch, BUT he's considerably better than any of the alternatives..

He's a corrupt, drunken, woman beating anti-semite, how on earth can he be better than any of the alternatives simply by virtue of being left wing. Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas.

 

[Rowdey]

He's a corrupt, drunken, woman beating anti-semite, how on earth can he be better than any of the alternatives simply by virtue of being left wing. Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas.

Seems you've missed the debate and subsequent facts about the 'anti-semite' allegation on here ?

Being 'Left Wing' doesn't swing it for me - working in CG zone & seeing the difference it made to Borough High Street, more buses for me and family to get, the City being highly productive (they are a large source of income for me) and other benefits do.

 

[Bars Mar]

Seems you've missed the debate and subsequent facts about the 'anti-semite' allegation on here ?

Being 'Left Wing' doesn't swing it for me - working in CG zone & seeing the difference it made to Borough High Street, more buses for me and family to get, the City being highly productive (they are a large source of income for me) and other benefits do.

His Anti-Semitism Stretches Further Than Abusing Jewish People With Deeply Offensive Holocaust Remarks. It's Why The Muslim Bigots Love Him And Support Him.

And Nice To See That You Are Willing To Overlook The Beating And The Drinking. As Long As He Gets The Buses Running On Time. Very Nice Indeed.

 

[London Calling]

Thank you, London Calling.
I'm quite grown-up and not a fuckwit.
(And I try not to be gratuitously rude to people I don't know.)
The chairman of London TravelWatch (who may, possibly, be even better informed than you) describes TfL as a bloated bureaucracy, says Ken has failed to appoint a strong, independent board to hold TfL to account and says many of the current TfL board are very weak and are so "joined at the hip" to Livingstone "that the booard seem frightened at critiquing".

Why would the Chairman of London Travel watch be better informed than me?

They have no more access to public information than me or the Evening Standard.

In fact probably less so, since I have access to information, that doesn't go public.

The Chairman is meant to be independent, so is London Travelwatch, so why prey, has the Chairman broken its remit and stating he is supporting Boris Johnson? Reeks of allegency. The fact he also represents a Tory area and apponted by Tory dominated London Assembly, won't influence his statement.

If some of the Board are weak, that's not Ken's fault but again, the people that has appointed them, the London Assembly.
Livingstone has publicly stated he wants to be scrutinised more, perhaps a cop out, or perhaps that all London Assembly members get paid £50,000 a year and the Tories on it, have the worst attendance record and put in less time in to the scrutinishing. Not actually Ken's fault.

I get annoyed because its again an ill informed attack on public servants, what do people want, good services don't come cheap and we want the best don't we. And nothing comes bigger than London transport.

Personally, I want a fair debate on the strategic issues of London, not half truths, not politically motivated comments on Ken's supposed drinking habits, where's the facts here? And the so called attack, I missed that court appearance.

We have in London 2 choices, yes there should be more.

Of someone who has a track record of strategicaly managing and directing, one of the world great cities and then we have Boris, its not Boris fault, that he has had no real responsibility.

He has led a great campaign but his nievity of a functioning state called London and lack of strategic overview and also of the detail is scary.

But then this election is about personalties, and not how the powerhouse of London should be run?

That's why I get cross.

LC

 

[The Merry Prankster]

more buses for me and family to get, the City being highly productive (they are a large source of income for me) and other benefits do.

Oh, thats OK then. Is there anything you wouldn't be prepared to overlook or is it anything goes as long as they provide lots of buses for you and your family to take home all your city money.

 

[London Calling]

Where is the corruption, please let have some evidence.

Of course now Boris, has received a donation from a Business man, who just happens to have a large development being proposed, which may be called in by the mayor.

Very transparent.

 

[Clapham Old Mug]

Dear London Calling,
For your information, the Transport for London board is appointed by the mayor and the mayor chairs the board.
You're quite entitled to get cross - but do get your basic facts right.

 

[bigc]

Dear London Calling,
For your information, the Transport for London board is appointed by the mayor and the mayor chairs the board.
You're quite entitled to get cross - but do get your basic facts right.

Why has everyone suddenly decided to label him as wife beater though, ffs? Fair enough question mayoral decisions and what have you, but don't make slurs about his private life.

It's not like he forced anyone to have an abortion....

 

[Clapham Old Mug]

bigc - the wife beating story has been around for years and years.

 

[Bars Mar]

Why has everyone suddenly decided to label him as wife beater though, ffs? Fair enough question mayoral decisions and what have you, but don't make slurs about his private life.

It's not like he forced anyone to have an abortion....

It's Not Suddenly. It's Been Known For A Long Time. Just Like His Anti-Semitism And Love Of Extremist Muslims And Extremist Irish Republicans. Oh, And His Drinking And Womanising And Jobs For The Boys. Plenty About All That On The Web. Check Out The Dates Of Some Of The Articles. What's The Abortion Claim About Then - And Are You Really Trying To Grade Whether Wife-beating Is Less Of A Scandal Than Forcing Someone To Have An Abortion?

Perhaps You Can Publish A Sliding Scale And Let Us Know Which Lapses In Judgement Are To Be Taken Into Consideration And Which Ones Are To Be Ignored.

 

[bigc]

It's Not Suddenly. It's Been Known For A Long Time. Just Like His Anti-Semitism And Love Of Extremist Muslims And Extremist Irish Republicans. Oh, And His Drinking And Womanising And Jobs For The Boys. Plenty About All That On The Web. Check Out The Dates Of Some Of The Articles. What's The Abortion Claim About Then - And Are You Really Trying To Grade Whether Wife-beating Is Less Of A Scandal Than Forcing Someone To Have An Abortion?

Perhaps You Can Publish A Sliding Scale And Let Us Know Which Lapses In Judgement Are To Be Taken Into Consideration And Which Ones Are To Be Ignored.

You can find anything if you look for it on the Internet...

Talking of the drink, are you saying it has impeded his judgement? I'm sure you can't claim that. I mean, it isn't like he is driving a bus. But this is a pointless argument because you are as entrenched within your position as I am.

 

[Bars Mar]

You can find anything if you look for it on the Internet...

Talking of the drink, are you saying it has impeded his judgement? I'm sure you can't claim that. I mean, it isn't like he is driving a bus. But this is a pointless argument because you are as entrenched within your position as I am.

Come Again?

Drinking At Work Is One Of The Few Things That All Businesses Can Summarily Sack Staff For. It's A Serious Offence In Any Business. Are You Saying That You're Happy For The London Mayor To Be Intoxicated At Work?

You're Not Entrenched. You're Befuddled.

 

[Clapham Old Mug]

It's been around much longer than the internet! Doesn't make it true, I grant you. I have some good friends who know him and like him - that's fine, but he is too divisive to be a good choice for three terms in a row. Even he said no mayor should remain in power (and he wields great power) for more than two terms. But that was before he actually became mayor...

 

[bigc]

It's been around much longer than the internet! Doesn't make it true, I grant you. I have some good friends who know him and like him - that's fine, but he is too divisive to be a good choice for three terms in a row. Even he said no mayor should remain in power (and he wields great power) for more than two terms. But that was before he actually became mayor...

On that note isn't Boris also equally divisive alongside different lines?

Paddick, who isn't appearing to be divisive, has come across incredibly dull and not captured anyones imagination. Perhaps everyone likes a bit of a divisive figure. You can certainly argue in favour of it(both for Ken/Boris) when most politicans these days do the Post-Blair "Big Tent" we appeal to everyone..

I'm accusing Brown, Cameron and Clegg here, before anyone nails me for bias.

 

[Clapham Old Mug]

Boris is divisive because of his background. Ken has a record of just ignoring anyone's opinion other than his own and he has the power to do that. Which is precisely why he (and Boris, for that matter) shouldn't be allowed to stand for a third term.

 

[Rowdey]

His Anti-Semitism Stretches Further Than Abusing Jewish People With Deeply Offensive Holocaust Remarks. It's Why The Muslim Bigots Love Him And Support Him.

And Nice To See That You Are Willing To Overlook The Beating And The Drinking. As Long As He Gets The Buses Running On Time. Very Nice Indeed.

A few off the cuff provoked remarks against a rag reporter doesn't bother me, and i've read nothing to back up your other anti semite jibes.

Beating - it's not HIM wife beating is it ? and a little drink - still seems to have still done a good job to/for me.

Oh, thats OK then. Is there anything you wouldn't be prepared to overlook or is it anything goes as long as they provide lots of buses for you and your family to take home all your city money.

Your right.! based upon expanded stories, chinese whispers, and a hate campaign, not much here to get hot under the collar about. I'm alright Jack, and million's of others voting for him again on the 1st are proof that they are also alright with it.

 

[Clapham Old Mug]

Beating - it's not HIM wife beating is it ?


Believe it or not, yes - it was him. But that's the least of London's worries...

 

[bigc]

A few off the cuff provoked remarks against a rag reporter doesn't bother me, and i've read nothing to back up your other anti semite jibes.

Beating - it's not HIM wife beating is it ? and a little drink - still seems to have still done a good job to/for me.



Your right.! based upon expanded stories, chinese whispers, and a hate campaign, not much here to get hot under the collar about. I'm alright Jack, and million's of others voting for him again on the 1st are proof that they are also alright with it.

That is bizarre....they are slaying Ken for being a Socialist but then having a go at you for supporting him and collecting City Money...

That sounds like a contradiction in terms to me...

 

[Rowdey]

Beating - it's not HIM wife beating is it ?


Believe it or not, yes - it was him. But that's the least of London's worries...

Well proof of that has been asked for by LC, and not received.

Filed under "Nonsense" until it comes up i'm afraid..


And just for the record, i've googled it, and found nothing either - either it didn't happen, or Ken's wielded his amazing powers yet again, and made it disappear..

Oddly, this campaign against him (led by Standard and Mail) actually makes me back him even more, and consciously not consume or buy any of their products..
As mentioned elsewhere, it's takes something to piss all this people off - is it because his headstrong views actually work, and we love failures ?

Getting off my soapbox for a moment, i did say earlier he's not perfect by any means, but show me some one who will serve 'common Londoner's' better ?