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Labour Leadership Contest



Yes, but ... which football teams do they support?

Next Left: Burnham leads the field in football support

And - apart from Ed Balls - which of the candidates have actually played football at Withdean?

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chimneys

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Jun 11, 2007
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Yes, but ... which football teams do they support?

I was in the director's box at Carrow Road at the mid week game last season and Ed Balls was just in front of me sitting like a lap dog next to Delia and her mum. So presume he's a canary?

Wonder if he declares those freebies!!
 


crodonilson

He/Him
Jan 17, 2005
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Lyme Regis
David Milliband is now a Chelsea fan but used to be a Blackburn fan.
 




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
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i think it will be most interesting if Ed Milliband wins as is apparently likley.

How far Left will Labour lurch and does this free up space for the Liberals to reoccupy as the party of the centre-left? Will a more left wing Labour party be electable, it would be like going back 20 years?
 




Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
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I did enjoy the Alan Davies prog last night, talking to Kinnock about his 'looney left' conference speech.
No love lost between Kinnock and Meacher.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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Will a more left wing Labour party be electable,

A Labour Party which takes the good bits of New Labour and builds on them will be. Which is why I voted for Ed M.

I think it's fairly clear the nation does not have the stomach for the right wing politics of Cameron and smug George. If it did, it would have voted Cameron in with a majority.
 




beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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I think it's fairly clear the nation does not have the stomach for the right wing politics of Cameron and smug George. If it did, it would have voted Cameron in with a majority.

clear? right wing? it would seem to me they were unsure (with a fluffy "Big Society" message who could blame them?), and the current Tories are probably more center than the Major government most voted for 18 years ago, in a pre-New Labour world. there where some massive swings away from Labour they need to address if they are to stand any chance of regaining power. some were in disillusioned safe seats they won anyway, but many are those key battle grounds you need to form a government. i dont think a more left Labour would capture many of the Liberal seats, or the Tory swing seats that Blair won in 97 and were lost in May.
 




Dandyman

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clear? right wing? it would seem to me they were unsure (with a fluffy "Big Society" message who could blame them?), and the current Tories are probably more center than the Major government most voted for 18 years ago, in a pre-New Labour world. there where some massive swings away from Labour they need to address if they are to stand any chance of regaining power. some were in disillusioned safe seats they won anyway, but many are those key battle grounds you need to form a government. i dont think a more left Labour would capture many of the Liberal seats, or the Tory swing seats that Blair won in 97 and were lost in May.


Labour has lost millions of it's core voters in it's lurch to the right. If Ed Milliband wins it might win a few of them back although he will no doubt be subject to an all out campaign of vilification by the tax dodging billionaires that control the British press.
 


simonsimon

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Dec 31, 2004
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Come April 2011 this CONlib coalition will be the most hated British Government in modern times.

A revitalised LABOUR PARTY under ED MILLIBAND will then lead us back to a stable socialist mixed economy utopia.
 


Silent Bob

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Dec 6, 2004
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i think it will be most interesting if Ed Milliband wins as is apparently likley.

How far Left will Labour lurch and does this free up space for the Liberals to reoccupy as the party of the centre-left? Will a more left wing Labour party be electable, it would be like going back 20 years?
Ed Miliband is hardly Michael Foot. He is centre left. Much as I'm sure the right wing press will try to paint him as a raving Trotskyist if he wins. I think the Lib Dems would find it difficult to sell themselves as an alternative to Labour when they've been in a right wing government with the Conservatives.
 
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beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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If Ed Milliband wins it might win a few of them back although he will no doubt be subject to an all out campaign of vilification by the tax dodging billionaires that control the British press.

:lolol: love how you are already preparing the excuses there.

Ed Miliband is hardly Michael Foot. ... I think the Lib Dems would find it difficult to sell themselves as an alternative to Labour when they've been in a right wing government with the Conservatives.

nor was Kinnock. i dont think the Liberals have ever been or sought to be (other than a few individuals) an alternative to Labour. they are traditionally to the right of the Labour movement, in the center. consider Lewes or Eastbourne (to be local), they're never going to be Labour seats, same for many suburban city seats they hold.
 
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Silent Bob

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Dec 6, 2004
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nor was Kinnock. i dont think the Liberals have ever been or sought to be (other than a few individuals) an alternative to Labour. they are traditionally to the right of the Labour movement, in the center. consider Lewes or Eastbourne (to be local), they're never going to be Labour seats, same for many suburban city seats they hold.
I don't disagree with that, but if they did try to position themselves as "the" part of the centre-left that would seem to imply as an alternative to Labour. That's not ground Labour will be vacating under either Miliband, though I suppose it's perception that matters more than fact - perhaps their enemies will be able to make the "Red Ed" nonsense stick, who knows.
I think the most important factor for the next election will be how the tories cuts programme effects the economy. It seems most/enough people have bought the need for a smaller state, but if the economy goes backwards they won't be able to blame it all on Labour as they are currently doing.
 




vulture

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Jul 26, 2004
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Come April 2011 this CONlib coalition will be the most hated British Government in modern times.

A revitalised LABOUR PARTY under ED MILLIBAND will then lead us back to a stable socialist mixed economy utopia.


lol this has to be the most stupid post ever.....your fuckers f***ed up the country you left wing twat brown and blair
 




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