Labour in Meltdown

[Stoo82]

Brown a commi Do you know what a commi is? Trotsky and Lenin are Commi's... Brown is a capitalist.

Most of the Government are Commis. Most were members of the communit party.

A communist dosen't have to be evil, Russian and kill millions of people. Oliver Cromwell invented communism, unoffcialy. Although he was a bit evil.

 

[Don Quixote]

Trosky didn't kill millions of people, nor did Lenin. I'm not sure if they were really that evil either. If the government was communist we would be living under a communist regime, i somehow don't think we are. We live in one of the most capitalist countries in the world.

 

[Stoo82]

Trosky didn't kill millions of people, nor did Lenin. I'm not sure if they were really that evil either. If the government was communist we would be living under a communist regime, i somehow don't think we are. We live in one of the most capitalist countries in the world.

I dont know much about trosky. Lenin did kill millions. He was evil. Also all of the Soviot leaders were not really TRUE communists, they were, if you want to give it a name, 'fasict cammunists'. Power at any cost and kill anyone who stood in your way.

Of course we live in a capatalst country. We are also a soicialst country. NHS and dole money and stuff like that, things that the good olf USofA dosent have. Brown, and there a people more commie than him in the labour party, would never push the true views to far. Because they would be out on their ear.

 

[clapham_gull]

Brown is a commi, simple as that.

What a load of bollocks, you sound like a BNP counciller.

Ever visited a communist regime ?

things that the good olf USofA dosent have.

What like Trade Unions, a Fire Service and a post office system ?

 

[Stoo82]

What a load of bollocks, you sound like a BNP counciller.

Ever visited a communist regime ?

No. But i know what a TRUE communist is.

 

[clapham_gull]

No. But i know what a TRUE communist is.

Met any ?

 

[Don Quixote]

When did Lenin kill millions of people?! Stalin by all means killed millions but Lenin never did.

 

[Pot noodles for everyone]

Trosky didn't kill millions of people, nor did Lenin. I'm not sure if they were really that evil either. If the government was communist we would be living under a communist regime, i somehow don't think we are. We live in one of the most capitalist countries in the world.

Only because Lenin died in 1923 and Trotsky was exiled. Lenin had no problem with murdering children in the name of communism. Russian royal family ring any bells?

 

[Don Quixote]

Only because Lenin died in 1923 and Trotsky was exiled. Lenin had no problem with murdering children in the name of communism. Russian royal family ring any bells?

That isn't millions of people is it? Some serious miscalculations there.

 

[Pot noodles for everyone]

Trosky didn't kill millions of people, nor did Lenin. I'm not sure if they were really that evil either. If the government was communist we would be living under a communist regime, i somehow don't think we are. We live in one of the most capitalist countries in the world.

And although capitalism is a relative term when you compare taxation and the burden on the state to look after our citizens through social welfare we lag far behind countries such as Brazil, phillipines, USA, Canada and other countries.

Our Nhs system alone would exclude us from the capitalist top 5 countries.

 

[Stoo82]

When did Lenin kill millions of people?! Stalin by all means killed millions but Lenin never did.

Vladimir Lenin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Some historians estimate that between 1917 and 1922 up to 280,000 people were killed by the Chekas, of which about half perished through summary executions and the other half through the suppression of rebellions (e.g. Tambov Rebellion).[59] Orlando Figes goes so far as to assert that it is possible more people were killed by the Cheka than died in battle.[60] Professor R.J. Rummel blames Lenin for a total of over 4 million "democides."[61 [Democide is a term coined by political scientist R. J. Rummel for "the murder of any person or people by a government]

Democide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Stoo82]

Met any ?

I may be one.

 

[Pot noodles for everyone]

That isn't millions of people is it? Some serious miscalculations there.

You're not paying attention. He died in 1923. By then thousands upon thousands of White russians had been murdered. Be in no doubt that had he lived the gulags would still have existed.

Your argument also flounders when you acknowledge that he was content to murder children but that because the figures didn't reach 7 digits that hale wasn't really evil.

 

[Don Quixote]

Those figures are due to the civil war in 1917, it wasn't Lenin personally sending people to death camps or siberia like Stalin it was a result of the civil war.

 

[coventrygull]

Those figures are due to the civil war in 1917, it wasn't Lenin personally sending people to death camps or siberia like Stalin it was a result of the civil war.

I have seen Lenin he was stuffed

 

[clapham_gull]

I may be one.

I doubt it, their education systems were generally very good.

 

[Stoo82]

Those figures are due to the civil war in 1917, it wasn't Lenin personally sending people to death camps or siberia like Stalin it was a result of the civil war.

Have a read about lenin.

Vladimir Lenin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

According to the Black Book of Communism, in May 1919 there were 16,000 people in labour camps based on the old Tsarist katorga labour camps, and in September 1921 there were more than 70,000

 

[Don Quixote]

I have seen Lenin he was stuffed

I've seen him too, its discusting.

 

[Stoo82]

I doubt it, their education systems were generally very good.

Are you suggesting because we don't agree on a subject that im thick?

 

[coventrygull]

I've seen him too, its discusting.

Surreal I thought