Did anyone else notice how many times he threw it or passed short last night? Seemed like a definite tactic to try and avoid his wayward kicking. Gillingham seemed to block them more second half but first half virtually everytime it went short. A good tactical adjustment I believe.
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Kuipers kicking
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EastbourneGull
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- Oct 1, 2008
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Agreed. Obviously we had two full backs capable of doing something with the ball when they received it from Kuipers. A lot of good attacking play came from this source.
JJ McClure
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Good tactical adjustment or potentially dangerous?
theonesmith
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- Oct 27, 2008
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Good tactical adjustment, using our fullbacks to play the ball out.
Kuiper's kicking is a liability, I have never seen anyone backspin the ball how he does.
Kuiper's kicking is a liability, I have never seen anyone backspin the ball how he does.
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A bit of both really. Mixing it up is the best way. We so rarely win the ball when we hoof it long, however if we get caught out playing it short then it would cause all kinds of problems.
Last night when we played it short Dicker would drop short to offer another easy pass for the defenders. This also allows more space for the wingers. The opposition strikers will have to push up on to the defenders, they will not be able to cover all four so wide midfielders may have to push up on to the full backs. This will hopefully lead to more space for Bennett and Thornhill/Davies. Also with Dicker dropping back the opposition centre midfielders have to decide whether to follow him or stay where they are. It seems to me that playing this way asks more questions of the opposition, and makes our movement more fluid.
If we continue to lump it forward all the time the opposition can get set in defence. Especially as Kuipers takes about a week and a half to kick it, thinking all the time 'don't mess this one up', 'don't mess this one up', 'don't mess this one up'. When he does kick it invariably goes to the wrong player anyway.
So in conclusion, a mixture of both options is best but they need to be done reasonably quickly wherever possible.
There was absolutely nothing wrong with his kicking last night.
Wish the same could be said about his handling of balls into the box... but that has never been his strong suit.
Wish the same could be said about his handling of balls into the box... but that has never been his strong suit.
BensGrandad
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One of his problems is that he is slow to see a player that he can kick/throw the ball to until they have been closed down and it is too late so we revert to a long high punt to nobody.
theonesmith
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I just hate his kicks. They're so easy to defend against and the ball inevitably get's headed by the opposition on the half way line back towards us. His kicks actually pin us back!
theonesmith
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Whereas Sullys old kicks... 
scooter1
How soon is now?
I've said this before, but considering they spend X days a week training you'd think his kicking would improve but it just doesn't seem to. Its got to be a fundamental bit of coaching, surely??
I don't know what game you were watching... but I can't remember a poor kick last night.
The only one that was a real waste went straight down the middle of the pitch but TOO FAR.
I would argue that Kuipers' kicking has vastly improved over the last couple of seasons. Granted, it still isn't perfect, but I think it has improved.
Mr Banana
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It's because of the full-backs. There was never any point rolling it out when we had, say, Virgo and Mayo there, because both couldn't safely do anything except lump it down the line. We also knocked it about in our own half a lot more last night for this reason. It was really good to see. I remember that game where McNulty got his kidney knackered he was taking on about four strikers in his own half and winning quite easily.
NMH
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There was no issue with Kuipers last night - he was focussed and intent, played well like the rest of the squad, and this thread is just a reach to find some nits to pick.
Leave it - it was a good game, good result, and everyone played really really well.
FACT.
Leave it - it was a good game, good result, and everyone played really really well.
FACT.
Common as Mook
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Storer68
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To be fair, most men in Brighton have problems about handling balls in the box
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No new issues perhaps.
Good shot stopping as usual, some throwing out to the full backs as others have posted but ponderously slow distribution generally, certainly when compared to most visiting keepers, and I only saw him come for two crosses. One was over hit and an easy take, the other he cocked up.
We were in B block last night so had a different perspective on both goalie's positioning for the crossed ball - I thought the Gills goalie looked more comfortable/secure.
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Or I was pointing out a difference in our play that was clearly evident last night. Kuipers kicking wasn't bad last night it is true. The reason for that was he kicked long less often.
Not every post on NSC is trying to start an argument, I thought we were just having a tactical discussion and for once a reasonably sensible one. I did not call for Kuipers to be dropped, or insult him in any way. It is an established fact his distribution is generally not very good, I was pointing out why I thought it was better last night.
Early in the game as soon as he got the ball he was giving it to Hoyte, which often started some great passing moves through the team.
Later in the game he took much longer, and would launch instead to Dickinson. I wonder whether having Dickinson in the team tempts some of our players into long ball a bit more? I hope not, and this is NOT a dig at Dickinson.
Later in the game he took much longer, and would launch instead to Dickinson. I wonder whether having Dickinson in the team tempts some of our players into long ball a bit more? I hope not, and this is NOT a dig at Dickinson.
NMH
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I wasn't really meaning the thread's intent or opening post - the following posts had some that were seemingly trying to be critical. I put it wrong - no offense.