Joe O'Cearuill

[Yorkie]

I think he played tonight...didn't look that bad!

I agree. There was another ex Albion loanee playing for Ireland U21s last night. Tony Stokes.

 

[BigGully]

The big premiership clubs tend to snap up any young prospect at an early age, most are released, or sold and very few make it into the team. They tend to have academies and take in 100's of youngsters, so it isn't surprising many don't turn out to be "up to scratch"

I know what you are saying and in JO's case it seems that they signed him on a whim, as he was pretty poor for us and lacked any quality that indicated that he should of been at Arsenal.

But Acadamies tend to be a little bit more selective than we think. There are strict guidelines on a maximum players signed on at each age group. Something like 30 per age group at the younger age groups and that decreases to 20 at the older age groups. Clubs do not really want to have players around that do not show any real chance of progressing.

Now thats where so called 'Development Centres' come into play.

I am not a fan of these centres.

Clubs can and do invite many youngsters into these Centres where players of just decent ability can be monitered. Waste of time on the whole especially for kids older than 10 years as very few are promoted to the Academy for real !!

Anyway wasnt JO signed professional for Arsenal straight from another club, therefore bypassing the Arsenal Academy system ??

 

[Munkfish]

I agree. There was another ex Albion loanee playing for Ireland U21s last night. Tony Stokes.

thats a different stokes there yorkie, we had stokes from west ham, that was ex arsenal currently of sunderland stokes

 

[CHAPPERS]

He looked okay and kept Walcott pretty quiet.

 

[TSB]

thats a different stokes there yorkie, we had stokes from west ham, that was ex arsenal currently of sunderland stokes

Correctamondo.

 

[pineapple stu]

You're a UCD fan, your opinions don't count - surely enough time on foot.ie has taught you that....

Indeed.

 

[BensGrandad]

Now thats where so called 'Development Centres' come into play.

Anyway wasnt JO signed professional for Arsenal straight from another club, therefore bypassing the Arsenal Academy system ??

I thought that Arsenal signed him from Watford

 

[Storer68]

Isn't there asome strange arrangement about payers pay in Ireland. I seem to recall it being relevant when O'Callaghan left Ipswich to go back to the republic?

 

[BigGully]

I thought that Arsenal signed him from Watford

Yeah thats what I thought, I thing he had a good game against their reserves once and that was it !!

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

He looked okay and kept Walcott pretty quiet.

Thats not to hard to do

 

[Silent Bob]

Thats not to hard to do

Especially when he is played as a lone striker.
Stuart Pearce is a tactical moron, Peter Taylor was better.

 

[CHAPPERS]

Especially when he is played as a lone striker.
Stuart Pearce is a tactical moron, Peter Taylor was better.

I know! That really f***ed me off. None of the supposed front three got in the box enough for the first 60 minutes. He should be playing a f***ing central striker at that level, even someone like Jerome would fill his boots against the likes of Ireland.

 

[pineapple stu]

Isn't there asome strange arrangement about payers pay in Ireland. I seem to recall it being relevant when O'Callaghan left Ipswich to go back to the republic?

You might be thinking of the deal where professional sportsmen/women can get all their tax on their sports-related earnings back if they reside in the country (have to stay for ten years minimum or something like that).

 

[e77]

I was at the under 21 match and I thought he looked ok in the middle of defence. Was all over Walcott, perhaps a bit clumsily as times but he wouldn't be playing that standard of striker week in week out in Ireland or League 1 or 2 over here.

If memory serves me correct we played him at right back and he wasn't that good going forward?